[Nfbf-l] clarification

Cathy Koyanagi cakoyanagi at samobile.net
Sat Mar 24 02:40:34 UTC 2012 

One blind community struggling to make meaningful differences.   You 
are right on all the common interest areas shared by the blind.  Cathy-Alice


Original message:
>     Right on my friend! We are too small of a percentage of our overall
> population to be dividing and splintering ourselves up even smaller which
> does nothing more than reduce our strengths to ward advocating for what we
> all need! when after  it is all said and done, we are all blind and in need
> of the same legislation, accessability in our community's and work places
> and awareness to our sighted counterparts. KH


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cathy Koyanagi" <cakoyanagi at samobile.net>
> To: <danjhicks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] clarification


> Actually, the initial point you made was about sounding off on ‘stand
> your ground’.  But perhaps you may have stimulated thoughts on yet
> another issue by merely voicing your thoughts on it?  which is
> exactlyhow threads are developed. The traffic goes both ways from what
> I have seen NFB to FCB and FCB to NFB.   It appears that many belong to
> both organizations and the emails blend together.  It is not that ACB
> shows up, but that individuals who share similar life journeys
> recognize a common issue that affect them or that they want a voice in.
> Caribbean-American writer, poet and activist, Audre Lorde, said "It is
> not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
> accept, and celebrate those differences."
> I believe we are all part of one blind community and each has so much
> to offer.  I celebrate being part of both.
> Warmly,
> Cathy-Alice Koyanagi


> Original message:
>> That is the point of my post. It must all stop -- now. And, why is traffic
>> from ACB lists showing up on this list anyway? I don't think we need an
>> absolute rule against it -- i don't like absolute rules of any kind -- but
>> I
>> can't see any good reason for ACB or FCB list traffic to appear on this
>> list.

>> Dan


>> "It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars."

>>                                                      -Garrison Keillor



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sherri
>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 7:34 PM
>> To: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] clarification

>> Tara,

>> While I have agreed with much of what you have said, I must assure you
>> that
>> I have known Kirk Harmon for a long time and he is definitely not a
>> racist!
>> I think we need to be very careful about flaming and name-calling on this
>> list. The message to which Kirk first responded wasn't even from me, but
>> rather on the FCB list. Messages crossed both lists, but unless you are on
>> the FCB list, you missed his message. I have not finished reading this
>> thread yet, but I would hope we can all step back and refrain from
>> name-calling and making assumptions about people that are patently untrue.

>> Sherri
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tara Prakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 4:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188


>>> It's again not a relevant email but if I must reply, here we go. After
>>> your email to Sheri, I was trying to avoid  responding to your emails.
>>> When you questioned the media in the context of the teenager murder case,
>>> you revealed too much of your racist side. It was a good attempt to hide
>>> behind the curtains of ignorance, ego, human nature, and your service to
>>> the nation, in subsequent emails but then one can't hide one's biases for
>>> too long.
>>> As a senior member of NFB you are expected to stay on topic more than
>>> anyone else. You should have addressed the ADA and rehabilitation act
>>> side

>>> of my email, you chose the wrong side, having to do with tea party.
>>> As about the other side of the pulpit, the other side of the tea party, I
>>> can't just avoid it at this time. It's okay to tax millionaires more than
>>> others so that blind children of America can be educated. We need people
>>> to pay taxes so that people keep getting their social security checks. I
>>> don't claim social security but I support it at any cost, no matter what
>>> tea party says. Since we at NFB advocate for government intervention and
>>> tea party is against it, the NFB and tea party are on completely
>>> divergent

>>> course. This is how I see the issue. And, This is why I am opposed to tea
>>> party's vision, or lack of it.
>>> Hopefully next time you write, it is something relevant to the blind and
>>> not about your political biases. Or a small talk with me.
>>> I hope this thread should be discontinued now.
>>> Cheers



>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 4:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188


>>>> Tara, you mean like you were doing late last  nightt from the other side
>>>> of
>>>> the pulpit?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tara Prakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188


>>>> You have too much of tea party hangover to be engaged in a meaningful
>>>> conversation. Rehabilitation act, Americans with disabilities Act, and
>>>> other
>>>> acts that give us equal right to work may all be wrong and misguided. Go
>>>> ahead and have them repealed. Only if we could stop sermonizing on the
>>>> list.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>>> To: "'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List'" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:24 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Stand your ground and s2188


>>>>> Hi Tara,

>>>>> No one blind or sighted have a 'right' to employment or anything else
>>>>> in
>>>>> our
>>>>> society.

>>>>> We have a right to 'life liberty and the pursuit of happiness' but we
>>>>> have
>>>>> to work to get it, not sit back and expect others to give it to us as a
>>>>> 'right'.

>>>>> JODY


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