[Nfbj] Blindness and shemirat negiah

[Felicitas Payk]

Hmm - may I say that this doesn't make much sense to me? What reasons should 
one have to use a cane in the house, where everything is familiar and we can 
find our way easily? And in the house we are not likely to stumble or fall, 
but it would be the case outside if we wouldn't have our cane.
Pheww!
Feli *trying to stay calm*
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
To: "NFB in Judaism" <nfbj at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbj] Blindness and shemirat negiah


> Yes, there is an umbrella of special circumstances, but a Rav should be 
> consulted.  When I asked one Rav if I could carry my white cane outside on 
> Shabbos before we had an eruv he said only if I used it in the house.  I 
> used the cane a few hours a week in the house and went on my merry way on 
> Shabbos.  He was quoting the Halacha.  Judith
> From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
> To: <nfbj at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbj] Blindness and shemirat negiah
>
>
>> This may fall under the umbrella of special circumstances.   For awhile
>> David was given to understand that he couldn't take his cane with him on
>> Shabbat, but then it was recognized that he wasn't carrying it, so much 
>> as it was
>> guiding him, and he wouldn't get there otherwise.   The same may apply to
>> wheelchairs, though the Eruv may take care of that.
>> Lori
>>
>> In a message dated 6/11/09 10:36:20 PM, jbron at optonline.net writes:
>>
>>
>>> My suggestion is consulting your local Rav. He will have the halachos on
>>> this issue. Judith
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lauren Tuchman" <ltuchman1 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NFB in Judaism" <nfbj at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbj] Blindness and shemirat negiah
>>>
>>>
>>> > Feli, I've often wondered the same thing. As Judith aforementioned,
>>> shomer
>>> > negia friends have offered me their arm though I do not ask them and 
>>> > was
>>> > actually surprised. Anyone know the specific halachos on this?
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Felicitas Payk" <felicitas.payk at t-online.de>
>>> > To: "NFB in Judaism" <nfbj at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:26 PM
>>> > Subject: [Nfbj] Blindness and shemirat negiah
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >> I actually wondered whether guiding blind people collides with being
>>> >> shomer negiah. An Orthodox rabbi who once taught me always offered me
>>> his
>>> >> arm when we went somewhere, and I was very happy about that. Do you
>>> know
>>> >> whether there is anything written on this subject, or whether the
>>> Talmud
>>> >> says anything? What are your experiences with those situations, when
>>> you
>>> >> need a hand but there's no one of your sex around? Did people ever 
>>> >> say
>>> >> "no"?
>>> >> All the best,
>>> >> Feli
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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