[nfbmi-talk] mcb??

Tonya Smith tonyasmith75 at live.com
Fri Oct 29 02:17:18 UTC 2010 

And yeah, I mean, think about it.  I wasn't talking about you, Fred, but think of it this way?  Do you really want someone to be just sitting back and saying, oh, oh well, you know, I'm not going to help myself.  I'm just going to be dumb, you know?  Or do you want somebody to say, hey, you know, this isn't right.  I mean, besides, I'm not the only one.  There's me, there's my friend Valerie and there's my friend Mike, who's in Oklahoma City, who dog gone--he isn't even getting food stamps or SSI because when his mom died, the government moved him over to SSDI.  God knows, I don't know why and you know what?  You have people who are cited and who say, oh well, you know, he's just getting a free ride and you have people like me who are basically helping him and basically, the only person giving me credit for that is my husband and him!  You know?   I mean, my gosh, you know, it's pretty bad when sometimes even my own, god forbid and I hate to say this, but even my own husband even thinks that he's not helping himself, when he's trying his dog gone **.  So you tell me what needs to change?  Yeah, I think that needs to change as well and no, Fred, I'm not mad at you.  I'm just expressing my opinion and I'm  not going to hold my tongue any longer.  

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> Original Message:
> ---------------------------------
> 
> From: Fred Wurtzel <f.wurtzel at att.net> 
> Sent: October 28, 2010 9:36:03 PM
> To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> 
> Hello Tonya,
> 
> There is a saying (like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic) that is
> said when making incremental changes will not prevent the inevitable or
> correct the incorrect path of the vessel, a metaphor for organization.  In
> the case of MCB the course is set in the wrong direction, so reorganizing or
> somehow restructuring the reporting hierarchy will not make any difference
> if the fundamental philosophical compass is not corrected.  We will continue
> to have clients told there is no money when there are millions of dollars of
> unspent money in the accounts.  College students will continue to be told
> they must take out loans, even though the Rehab Act does not require that
> they do.  Students will be stuck with $11,000 debts with no offer to repay
> them, even though the Commission gave incorrect information.  We will
> continue to work to reduce services to college students when a college
> education is the best predictor of employability.  We will continue to
> reduce legally mandated services to BEP operators who wish to move even
> though they are often making less than the minimum wage and cannot afford to
> move their household across the state, even if for a better job.  We will
> continue to have the MCB director usurping power from the Commission Board
> when, in fact, the board is his boss.  We will continue to have information
> withheld even though the law clearly requires the sharing of public
> documents.  Blind children will continue to be denied the opportunity to
> learn Braille, even though the Commission law clearly states the MCB
> Director shall coordinate all services to blind children in Michigan.
> Highly qualified and hardworking blind people will be fired from the
> Commission for being NFB members.  Leaders in the Business Enterprise
> Program will continue to be removed from the program because they are
> leaders and are members of the NFB.     
> 
> This is what I mean when I say that restructuring the MCB is like
> rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.  What is needed is for the
> Commission Board to take its rightful roll as the policy setting body for
> MCB, to focus on a philosophy that leads to doing whatever is necessary to
> help blind people get good jobs and gain first-class citizenship, free from
> discrimination and low expectation.  I hope this helps.
> 
> Warm Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Tonya Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:56 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> 
> Hey Fred this is Tonya. What the holy heck does the Titanic have to do with
> the commission? The Titanic is a ship Fred, I saw the movie. What does, I
> don't get it. What does the changing of the chairs have to do, I don't get
> it. What does the changing of the chairs on the Titanic have to do with
> anything. I don't get it. Perhaps why don't you come back and explain it to
> me please. Because well, I don't mean to sound really rude, but that sounded
> kind of really dumb. 
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> > Original Message:
> > ---------------------------------
> > 
> > From: Fred Wurtzel <f.wurtzel at att.net> 
> > Sent: October 28, 2010 8:14:57 PM
> > To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Unless there are major philosophic changes, rearranging the chairs on the
> > Titanic will not help.
> > 
> > Warmest Regards,
> > 
> > Fred
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of gkitchen
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:40 PM
> > To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am not  sure if there was a misunderstanding.  I think some people have 
> > been dissatisfied with their services from the commission, certainly in
> not 
> > every circumstance but with certain services.
> > 
> > Georgia
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jacalyn Paulding" <jacalynpaulding at gmail.com>
> > To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm just wondering if there is a little misunderstanding here.  They are
> 
> > > in
> > > fact restructuring the physical premises of the Michigan Comission 
> > > Training
> > > Center in kalamazoo.  All students are going home November 19th and the
> > > center is relocating while there is a massive remodeling.
> > >
> > > Do you think maybe somebody misunderstood mcbtc to be mcb?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:42 AM, gkitchen <ghkitchen at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Fred,
> > >>
> > >> I think the person who mentioned it was unsatisified with their
> services
> > >> and well I believe they have reason.
> > >>
> > >> Georgia
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
> > >> To: "'Marcus Simmons'" <MarcusSimmons at comcast.net>; "'NFB of Michigan
> > >> Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:44 PM
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, restructuring could mean a lot of things, so that is why I really
> > >>> wonder what is ment by this comment.  It could mean anything from
> merger
> > >>> with MRS, to moving to the Department of Ed or a simple reassignment
> of
> > >>> roles within the agency.  Very ambiguous.
> > >>>
> > >>> Warmest Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Fred
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> > >>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >>> ]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Marcus Simmons
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:20 PM
> > >>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> > >>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > >>>
> > >>> If 30% of the present staff retire, that would constitute a 
> > >>> restructuring,
> > >>> right?
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "gkitchen" <ghkitchen at comcast.net>
> > >>> To: "NFB of Michigan List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:26 AM
> > >>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Someone I talked to briefly told me they were going to restructure
> the
> > >>>> MCB. Has anyone have any comments about this?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Georgia
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