[nfbmi-talk] mcb??

gkitchen ghkitchen at comcast.net
Fri Oct 29 02:18:48 UTC 2010


Hello,
Well said Fred.

I have a lot to learn but I have seen   all these things happen since I 
either worked in the field or was in the NFB.

Georgia
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??


> Hello Tonya,
>
> There is a saying (like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic) that 
> is
> said when making incremental changes will not prevent the inevitable or
> correct the incorrect path of the vessel, a metaphor for organization.  In
> the case of MCB the course is set in the wrong direction, so reorganizing 
> or
> somehow restructuring the reporting hierarchy will not make any difference
> if the fundamental philosophical compass is not corrected.  We will 
> continue
> to have clients told there is no money when there are millions of dollars 
> of
> unspent money in the accounts.  College students will continue to be told
> they must take out loans, even though the Rehab Act does not require that
> they do.  Students will be stuck with $11,000 debts with no offer to repay
> them, even though the Commission gave incorrect information.  We will
> continue to work to reduce services to college students when a college
> education is the best predictor of employability.  We will continue to
> reduce legally mandated services to BEP operators who wish to move even
> though they are often making less than the minimum wage and cannot afford 
> to
> move their household across the state, even if for a better job.  We will
> continue to have the MCB director usurping power from the Commission Board
> when, in fact, the board is his boss.  We will continue to have 
> information
> withheld even though the law clearly requires the sharing of public
> documents.  Blind children will continue to be denied the opportunity to
> learn Braille, even though the Commission law clearly states the MCB
> Director shall coordinate all services to blind children in Michigan.
> Highly qualified and hardworking blind people will be fired from the
> Commission for being NFB members.  Leaders in the Business Enterprise
> Program will continue to be removed from the program because they are
> leaders and are members of the NFB.
>
> This is what I mean when I say that restructuring the MCB is like
> rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.  What is needed is for the
> Commission Board to take its rightful roll as the policy setting body for
> MCB, to focus on a philosophy that leads to doing whatever is necessary to
> help blind people get good jobs and gain first-class citizenship, free 
> from
> discrimination and low expectation.  I hope this helps.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Tonya Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:56 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
>
> Hey Fred this is Tonya. What the holy heck does the Titanic have to do 
> with
> the commission? The Titanic is a ship Fred, I saw the movie. What does, I
> don't get it. What does the changing of the chairs have to do, I don't get
> it. What does the changing of the chairs on the Titanic have to do with
> anything. I don't get it. Perhaps why don't you come back and explain it 
> to
> me please. Because well, I don't mean to sound really rude, but that 
> sounded
> kind of really dumb.
>
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>> Original Message:
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> From: Fred Wurtzel <f.wurtzel at att.net>
>> Sent: October 28, 2010 8:14:57 PM
>> To: 'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List' <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Unless there are major philosophic changes, rearranging the chairs on the
>> Titanic will not help.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of gkitchen
>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:40 PM
>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am not  sure if there was a misunderstanding.  I think some people have
>> been dissatisfied with their services from the commission, certainly in
> not
>> every circumstance but with certain services.
>>
>> Georgia
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jacalyn Paulding" <jacalynpaulding at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
>>
>>
>> > I'm just wondering if there is a little misunderstanding here.  They 
>> > are
>
>> > in
>> > fact restructuring the physical premises of the Michigan Comission
>> > Training
>> > Center in kalamazoo.  All students are going home November 19th and the
>> > center is relocating while there is a massive remodeling.
>> >
>> > Do you think maybe somebody misunderstood mcbtc to be mcb?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:42 AM, gkitchen <ghkitchen at comcast.net> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Fred,
>> >>
>> >> I think the person who mentioned it was unsatisified with their
> services
>> >> and well I believe they have reason.
>> >>
>> >> Georgia
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
>> >> To: "'Marcus Simmons'" <MarcusSimmons at comcast.net>; "'NFB of Michigan
>> >> Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:44 PM
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, restructuring could mean a lot of things, so that is why I 
>> >>> really
>> >>> wonder what is ment by this comment.  It could mean anything from
> merger
>> >>> with MRS, to moving to the Department of Ed or a simple reassignment
> of
>> >>> roles within the agency.  Very ambiguous.
>> >>>
>> >>> Warmest Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Fred
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >>> ]
>> >>> On Behalf Of Marcus Simmons
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:20 PM
>> >>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
>> >>>
>> >>> If 30% of the present staff retire, that would constitute a
>> >>> restructuring,
>> >>> right?
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "gkitchen" <ghkitchen at comcast.net>
>> >>> To: "NFB of Michigan List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:26 AM
>> >>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] mcb??
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Someone I talked to briefly told me they were going to restructure
> the
>> >>>> MCB. Has anyone have any comments about this?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Georgia
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