[nfbmi-talk] Minutes, January 6, 2011, 8:30 P.M.

[Elizabeth]

Joe,
 
I am choosing to honor your request to end the discussion on this matter. In doing so, I hope that you can extend this same respect towards me.
 
Thanks,
Elizabeth

 
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> Elizabeth and Donna,
> 
> Once again you both know precisely how the motion was phrased and indeed 
> passed twice over again. You, Elizabeth have the room with Mary Wertzel paid
> 
> for by the members of the NFB MI and if others from NFB MI who are women are
> 
> to join with you then the room payments will continue. If there are other 
> members of NFB, women who wish to share the room but who are not members of 
> NFB MI then they must share, pro rata the room expense.
> 
> If anyone wishes to challenge my recollection of the motions or events then 
> I should refer them to the recordings of this event. However, I suggest, 
> with all patience expired at this late hour that you, Elizabeth and others 
> continue to make mountains out of moe hilss at exhaustive expense and at 
> diliatory purpose for those in NFB MI who wish to actually get about to 
> business.
> 
> Furthermore, while I have not openly commented upon this before, and that is
> 
> only in the interest of unity, which was rather admittedly stupid on my 
> behalf, I must state that if you wish Elizabeth for the record to be trully 
> reflective of statements made that you innacurately stated that the reason 
> you wished to have the room to yourself and for whomever you stated from 
> another state was because as again you stated publicly last year the youth 
> didn't make visits to our reps. This clearly was not true and it denigrated 
> the rokle of Melinda and our youth group.
> 
> Now, if you, Elizabeth or others have direct evidence to the contrary I 
> would hope that you would support those allegations with facts and for the 
> record.
> 
> If I am mistating events or misinterpreting them I will submit to each and 
> every member of the board on these accounnts and as to the taped, or 
> recorded record.
> 
> If that is done Elizabeth I will apologize to you with a public microphone 
> from the highest public building of your chosing as well as of course, on 
> this list and others for that matter.
> 
> Shoot if innacurate in the least detail I'm willing to have a llie detector 
> test, a public flogging, and a Partridge in a Pear tree to satisfy you.
> 
> Now, as a member all I expect from you, and others is to simply take "Yes" 
> for an answer and not to be pervisely devisive with no purpose whatsoever 
> except, perhaps to extend some sort of personal agenda or grudge or another 
> against the commonweal and the common interest and the common defense of 
> commonly held rights and responsabilities.
> 
> Contrary to common slander I do not welcome debate for the simple sake of 
> it. Nor do I relish confrontation between peers for the sake of it. Nor do I
> 
> wish any ill will upon you or your faction such as it is. But, neither do I 
> care one wit for trifles and bovine scatology and/or deflection. diffusion, 
> delusion, or other silly little and petty drama games.
> 
> There is serious business goingon here which impacts the lives of all blind 
> folks in this state and, indeed in America and even around the globe.
> 
> Certainly my way is not the "only way" and I do not presume to be that all 
> knowing or all powerful for I am not, after all "God".
> 
> I say these things to pre-empt ad hominum attacks and to point to, once 
> again the public record which is and has been accurately reflected by all 
> but you Elizabeth on this issue.
> 
> Again, those things are in the recordings if you don't listen or don't 
> trust those who fund you in this endeavor.
> 
> Finally I'll say simply, "Stop playing games."
> 
> And, that goes to you too Donna.
> 
> The times are dire for those who are blind in America and Michigan and none 
> of us can afford bovine scatology... (If you don't know what tthat means 
> than look it up!)
> 
> Joe