[nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings

Mon Jun 13 17:52:38 UTC 2011

I'm not dealing with opiniions but, rather facts or in the case of MCB 
discovering facts. Moreover, when it comes to MCB it is a creation of the 
Vocational Rehab Act and here is the link to VR regulations right on the NFB 
web site.

You will also not links to the ADA and implementing regulations therein and 
on that very web site too and those I refer to in the very message I 
presented.

Joe

http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Voc_Rehab_regs.asp?SnID=90835971
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings

> Christine,
> Sorry for not clarifying my message. I'm not leaving the NFB. There's lots 
> of facets to this organization and part of our strength is that there's so 
> many ways to be involved, from local chapters to the dozens of national 
> divisions.
> I don't have a problem with our stance on the MCB or some of the members 
> involved. I just question how we publicly present this information 
> sometimes on a publicly searchable email list. People's individual 
> opinions could be construed as the organization's position, for example or 
> used against us in legal or other proceedings. I know many of us, myself 
> included, have strong opinions about some of the leadership in our state 
> government and with perseverance and determination, we will succeed, just 
> as we did in helping you get your job back.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> J.J. Meddaugh
> A T Guys
> Your Assistive Technology Experts
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christine Boone" <christine_boone at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>
>
>> J.J., Please don't leave!  I truly believe that we are going to get the 
>> Commission squared away pretty soon, and then there will be plenty of 
>> space on the list for other things.  I know how you feel.  Sometimes all 
>> of this commission stuff just wears on a person.  You just want a day to 
>> go by when we don't have to read about our rights being violated, or yet 
>> another MCB related  meeting happening.  Uggggg!
>>
>> Keep the faith and hang in there!
>> I would like to see us have some kind of great and positive PR thing 
>> during the next year in the NFB of Michigan.  Something that is designed 
>> to be completely positive.  I have lots of ideas:  Perhaps a walk-a-thon, 
>> but not just for the sake of having a walk-a-thon.  We could walk in 
>> celebration of something, like Braille literacy, or Michigan poling 
>> places having accessible voting machines.  That one might be good, with 
>> the 2012 election coming up.  We could walk for visibility, and to 
>> educate and encourage people to vote, not by absentee ballot, but at 
>> their neighborhood poling place using the accessible technology that is 
>> provided there.  And why is it possible to vote in this way?  Because of 
>> the National Federation of the Blind of course, and others who joined in 
>> the effort as the years passed, but it was indeed the NFB who was first 
>> on the scene to raise the issue of access to a secret ballot for blind 
>> people. For several years in Nebraska, in the 1990s, I even got to vote 
>> using Braille ballot instructions and a template for completing my own 
>> paper ballot.
>>
>> Here's to a brighter future, which will seem even sweeter for the dark 
>> times through which we have all journeyed together!
>>
>> With Love,
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:26 AM, J.J. Meddaugh wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, this list just gets crazier all the time.
>>> Perhaps it's time for me to leave.
>>>
>>> From: "David Robinson" <drob1946 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear Joe,
>>>>
>>>>  I absolutely agree.  It is important that we become knowledgable of 
>>>> our
>>>> rights and the obligations of a public agency like MCB under the law.
>>>> Perhaps MCB would be more alert to the law if enough of us would insist 
>>>> tht
>>>> our rights be followed.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>> [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:41 PM
>>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>>
>>>> To make it a part of the public record and to archive it. It is also
>>>> instructive as to what consumer advocates including members of NFB MI 
>>>> should
>>>>
>>>> be doing.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why must you CC the list with this?
>>>>
>>>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "Luzenski, Sue (DLEG)" <LuzenskiS at michigan.gov>
>>>> Cc: "lydia schuck" <laschuck at juno.com>; <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Jo 
>>>> Anne
>>>> Pilarski MCB, Chair" <pilarskij at CHARTER.NET>; "John Scott MCB, 
>>>> Commissioner"
>>>> <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 6:49 PM
>>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] ada accommodations for upcoming mcb meetings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> June 12, 2011
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>>
>>>> E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Re: ADA accommodations for upcoming meetings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> c/o Sue Luzenski
>>>>
>>>> MCB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Via e-mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Sue,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm writing you today to receive in accessible format pursuant to both 
>>>> the
>>>> Accessible Meeting and the Effective Communications requirements of the 
>>>> ADA
>>>> and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 each and every scrap of information 
>>>> sent
>>>> to MCB commissioners for the upcoming meeting on Thursday and Friday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not ask for as I've already received them elsewhere the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -draft prior meeting minutes
>>>>
>>>> -agenda except for the Thursday meeting
>>>>
>>>> -the MCB Report
>>>>
>>>> -the MCB activities list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do expect to receive all written reports and all other items 
>>>> referenced in
>>>> the agenda.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As you know my computer talks and thus the only accommodation I request 
>>>> at
>>>> this time is to have these items sent to me at my e-mail address listed
>>>> above as Word or plain text attachments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance for your timely accommodation in this regard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cc: MCB commissioners
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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