[nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Mon Sep 26 12:52:14 UTC 2011


Right on Larry! and once again, what is Meadow's taxpayer supported job 
here? Oh, it is to engage in the vocational rehabilitation process and to 
assist blind folks with obtaining competitive  jobs.

Now, in her own words she denigrated as an entire class the very people that 
taxpayer's pay for her to support and not to undermine.

If Faith were just the "average blink" (excuse the term please) then I would 
not be so incensed.

But she is not so. She again acts in a public capacity and is paid for by 
the public. And she in word and deed acts contrary to her official public 
charge and code of professional ethics.

The insanity of this all is that here Faith acts like those in "Indian 
agencies" in decrying the very people she gets paid for supposedly 
assisting.

And, yes Faith has the absolute right to her opinions. I, being a fervent 
civil libertarian agree with that. She also in this public domain has the 
right to have those self-same opinions addressed or even attacked, on the 
merits.

Again, she openly, publicly and outrageously denigrated an entire class of 
individuals. What is more outrageous is these are the very people that the 
taxpayer funds her to supposedly serve.

If people can't see the moral and outright wrong of this then I simply don't 
know what to think.

But, I'll not desist from pointing out the obvious fact that the Emporer has 
no cloths on though some might consider that untowards or something.

Bottom line is: if Faith wishes to hold these veiws then perhaps she should 
get into another feild of endeavor.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter


> Christy, What I'm mostly responding to is that this person whom I know 
> well, can attack us and think we are just complaining to do so.  I got 
> involved with the NFB because I'm job hunting and am not getting anywhere! 
> This isn't the first time that MS. Meadows has let loose like this.  She 
> certainly has a right to her oppinion but sence she works in the rehab 
> field she should be supporting us in our efforts.  Beeing a person who 
> would LOVE!!!  to have a job and is doing everything possible to obtain 
> that goal. Well, I guess I am getting tired of being stereotyped as 
> someone who would rather live of the government than contribute to it! 
> MS. Meadows also claims or was a member of our organization as well. 
> Finally, she has become one of those folks who are doing alright and at 
> least seem to have most of what we want.  This is a good thin unless you 
> do what she has done and judge those of us who are trying and getting 
> nowhere!  I, like Mr. Harcz, do believe that They are doing the best they 
> can down in Kalamazoo but some folks are not doing the jobs they have well 
> and in fact are not giving deserving blind folks as good a service as they 
> can.  Most of the counsellors are well intentioned.  But training of 
> counsellors and clients does need to improve!  I'm very happy that you 
> don't really need the services but some folks do and that's what we need 
> to improve!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <christywitte at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>
>
>>    I can definitely see why some people are frustrated and even angry. 
>> However, last time I checked, our job is not to judge others our spout 
>> off. If people could use that energy they feel to accomplish a goal, like 
>> getting a job it would be great. I'm not responding specifically to 
>> anyone on the list. I know that sometimes there are misconceptions about 
>> the commission and what it does and what it does not do. Try to turn your 
>> tragedies to triumphs. Also, blindness is just one adjective to describe 
>> us; beyond that, we come from all walks of life and so we have many 
>> experiences and abilities.  Sometimes, we have to take things in our own 
>> hands. If we do not believe in our own abilities, how do we expect others 
>> to believe in our abilities. We all must forge ahead to achieve success; 
>> means something to everybody. Some of us are very young or very old, may 
>> have other disabilities, difficult lives, varying levels of skills. We 
>> are all given a different lot in life but we need to work within our own 
>> parameters to get things done. The commission can be lacking, this is 
>> true, but blaming an organization, which is composed of many people, 
>> doesn't get us a paycheck or whatever we feel we want and need 
>> individually and as a group. We must forge together and stand together to 
>> win our battles. By the way, I've never gotten assistance from anybody. I 
>> think about what I would do in their shoes; I also consider how much I 
>> would want to help or assist someone who has attacked me. I am not trying 
>> to offend others nor am I condoning people who don't get the job done. 
>> I've also observed that many people in my generation may not fully 
>> comprehend their own role in finding employment or understand what the 
>> job is going to involve. You have ask yourself: do I have the skills 
>> necessary for this job and if I want this job, or one similar to it, how 
>> am I going to personally acquire the skills that are lacking. Many blind 
>> people in my age group are unemployed, and many of those aren't hitting 
>> the pavement every day looking for enjoyable employment. I'm not sure 
>> about the reasons. They may feel overwhelmed by the process; they may 
>> feel like they are not equipped with the tools necessary to perform this 
>> job. It is kind of like climbing a mountain. You have to locate and climb 
>> to the higher level.
>> Sorry about the length.
>> Christy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:09 PM
>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Faith Meadows Letter
>>
>>
>>> Also, I'm concerned about her and others who think our commission board 
>>> is to aggressive!  Does this mean it didn't do much before?  I thaught 
>>> our board was supposed to actually do something!  Just being the blind 
>>> man in the street, and correct me if I'm wrong at least 2 of the 
>>> commissioners had very good jobs.  I don't really know Lydia but if she 
>>> doesn't have one she would deffinetly have experience enough for the 
>>> board.  Both of the commissioners who quit had good jobs but decided to 
>>> quit anyway because they were out numbered and in my humble oppinion 
>>> didn't really have enough interest in making things better for the blind 
>>> population as a whole.  It seems to me that when some blind folks get 
>>> lucky and get good jobs they forget that most of us are still struggling 
>>> for the security and respect they think they have earned!  I am not 
>>> slamming everyone that has gotten jobs iether but people like Faith and 
>>> Donna Rose must feel secure in ther jobs so they find us especially the 
>>> NFB tiresome because we still have to scratch and claw for every single 
>>> rite we gett!  If joblessness and respect were not issues then we 
>>> wouldn't have to be aggressive about themm!  But we should always insist 
>>> on fair play!  At least the current board wants to do things right and 
>>> abov board!
>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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