[Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question

Mon Jan 6 05:44:39 UTC 2014

Being blind or disabled does not necessarily mean you are automatically paid
subminimum wages.  That depends on whom you work for, whether the employment
is supported employment or not, whether the company gets a "tax break" for
hiring you, whether your wages are supplemented, there are a bunch of other
criteria that may come into play.  Does the NFB have any figures -- not
guestimates -- of how many blind or disabled people are employed,
underemployed, or unemployed?  I know the unemployment rate for the blind
has been stated to be somewhere between 70 and 80 percent for as long as I
can remember.  If that were the unemployment rate for any part of the U.S.
there would be a big stink raised, I can guarantee you that.  By the way, in
case someone doesn't know, the unemployment figures you hear on the news
never take into account the disabled or blind or the chronically unemployed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dmgina
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 10:38 PM
To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question

When I worked for pizza hut, as well with big sisters, I got the same raises
as everyone else. 
I did not understand that working with the public we did not get raises. 
I thought we were fighting for the raise in work shop settings. 
If I am correct, then why would not the workers stand up for you. Or shall I
say us! 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 

> On Jan 5, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It does matter that it is raised on Colorado and in Montana, because
> that means that while nondisabled workers may actually be guaranted a
> state minimum above the federal minimum wage, some disabled workers in
> those same states are still paid below the federal minimum wage. The
> divide grows wider and wider and we need to be the ones who bring a
> magnifing glass to this for the public and to bring it to an end!
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On 1/5/14, Rebecca Stewart <becca33 at bresnan.net> wrote:
>> I'm sorry but I really don't care that they are raising the minimum wage
in
>> CO.  Our issue is that our brethren are being paid "subminimum" wages so
it
>> won't matter to our cause what CO raises their MW to.
>> Becca
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dmgina
>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:24 PM
>> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] A ridiculous Question
>> 
>> What are they raising it too!
>> 
>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Colorado is one of the states that is raising its minimum wage this
year.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1/5/14, Dmgina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>> Wow what did you have for breakfast to come up with such thoughts
smile!
>>>> As it was shared on the news, Montana doesn't have the money to keep up
>> with
>>>> the raises states are doing. They are doing well to keep jobs.
>>>> I do know to keep our mall open they need to come down in price for
>> renting
>>>> a space.
>>>> No wonder we shop on line.
>>>> This is happening al over, not just the disabled, or the blind.
>>>> It is good to get out there and take a stand.
>>>> We are proud to remind others we too need a raise in the working force.
>>>> Don't know if I came close to your question, just my thoughts.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dar
>>>> Every saint has a past,
>>>> Every sinner has a future
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:54 AM, "Rik James" <montanarikster at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am appreciating what the NFB legislative team is doing. I am looking
>>>>> forward to our trip to Washington, to be part of a collective voice to
>>>>> express our dismay and disgust at what is, and has been going on for
>> much
>>>>> too long for our fellow blind persons.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What we will ask them, the Congressional representatives to do is
>>>>> important. For us, together and for each of individually, I guess I
>>>>> feel
>>>>> like I need to get my head together and be informed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And to be able to boil it down into a few concise and understandable
>> sound
>>>>> bytes. Because that is what we will have in the way of time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go around the room, if you please, now, fellow Fedearationists.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Speak your mind now amongst ourselves.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sing the Dress Rehearsal Rag.
>>>>> (Oops, sorry! I drifted in to my music world for a moment, with that
>>>>> Leonard Cohen song title.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do you each know about the history of the minimum wage in
America?
>>>>> In the general sense, I think this is valuable to understand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are the big bullet points of that history, that have led us to
>> right
>>>>> now in time?
>>>>> 
>>>>> History. All around us. Surrounding us.
>>>>> And the role we play, today, in that history.
>>>>> The future and the present. Unraveling all of it.
>>>>> That is what occupies part of my mind, as I try and see about what I
>> would
>>>>> like to be a part of in Washington at the end of this month.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wish I felt more optimistic. I have been following our Congress with
>>>>> horror and dismay in the years since last I went on this advocacy
>>>>> pilgrimage.
>>>>> And so it makes me rather a grim conversationalist, when sitting
around
>>>>> talking. Because I worry that we are all of us, sighted, blind and
>>>>> whatever in a very rough patch for democratic principles, and anyone
>>>>> without a huge money sack of lobby professionals, controlling the pie
>>>>> slicing in America.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I let that rest. Are you glad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> But here is the next little thing I have to say. That beyond those few
>>>>> moments with a congressmen or one of their staff, there will be time
>> with
>>>>> one another, us in the National Federation of the Blind, from Montana,
>> and
>>>>> other state affiliate members around the nation, once again. Anything
>>>>> is
>>>>> possible. Especially when we remain as we are, and continue to evolve
>> and
>>>>> to work together.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And that is also precious. Don't you think?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just am hoping now that by that time the weather will cooperate with
>> us,
>>>>> too. For our travel needs. It will be what it will be. But I wish for
>>>>> it
>>>>> to be smooth sailing, smooth flying, and a waltz on concrete that is
>>>>> not
>>>>> so dreadfully slippery as it is here today in my home town.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peace Love Joy.
>>>>> And man the barricades. We will not go back.
>>>>> As Doctor Jernigan and others have chanted lo these decades now for
our
>>>>> rights for equality and justice, and a fair shake at everything anyone
>>>>> with complete normal eyesight has.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rik
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> .
>>>>> 
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