[nobe-l] iPhone question

Wed Oct 22 20:17:23 UTC 2014

Dear Kathy,

There is an app in the App Store called VO Starter which will help you get acquainted with VoiceOver. Also, in the settings on your phone you can go to the general section and find the accessibility tab. Choose it and at the very bottom of that, there is an accessibility shortcut button which opens the choices of shortcuts. I have VoiceOver as my shortcut so that if I triple click the Home button just below the screen, I can turn VoiceOver on or off. Hope this helps. 

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Lara Sowell

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> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:14:48 -0400
> From: "Kathy Nimmer" <goldendolphin17 at hotmail.com>
> To: "blind teachers" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nobe-l] IPhone question
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> Hello,
>  I have just just just purchased an IPhone after a lifetime of no IPhone. Right now, I?d rather throw it through the window than anything else as it is all so foreign to me. Does anyone have a resource that is particularly helpful for learning how to use Voiceover and Ciri in particular? Also, which gestures do you tend to use over and over again? I have a blind friend coming soon to help me learn this, but I?d like to feel less of an incompitent slug than I do right now! Thanks for any help.
> Kathy Nimmer
> "When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it seems as though you could not hang on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn." Harriet Beecher Stowe
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:34:00 -0500
> From: "Heather Field" <missheather at comcast.net>
> To: "Kathy Nimmer" <goldendolphin17 at hotmail.com>,    "National
>    Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] IPhone question
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> Hello Kathy,
> National Braille Press has an up-to-date book on how to use the iPhone for 
> blind users. It costs around $20 and is, from all reports, really very 
> comprehensive and helpful. There is also a small set of raised diagrams that 
> depict various screen layouts which is also very helpful.
> www.nbp.org
> I have purchased both, but haven't got the phone yet. I've been holding off 
> till they released the iPhone 6 and IOS 8.
> Be warned that the word on the street is that the IOS 8 is very buggy for 
> Voice Over users. Apple is pretty responsive in fixing them but it does take 
> them time.
> I believe you can download the book in e-braille which might be helpful for 
> you if you are anxious to get started. Also, Mike Freeman had a fairly 
> helpful "getting started" article in the Braille Monitor earlier this year. 
> You may find that helpful also. In the article he did say that the learning 
> curve at the beginning was steep and discouraging and frustrating but to 
> push on through as the benefits will soon show.
> I hope that's helpful.
> Warmly,
> Heather Field
> 
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kathy Nimmer via nobe-l
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 4:14 PM
> To: blind teachers
> Subject: [nobe-l] IPhone question
> 
> Hello,
>  I have just just just purchased an IPhone after a lifetime of no IPhone. 
> Right now, I?d rather throw it through the window than anything else as it 
> is all so foreign to me. Does anyone have a resource that is particularly 
> helpful for learning how to use Voiceover and Ciri in particular? Also, 
> which gestures do you tend to use over and over again? I have a blind friend 
> coming soon to help me learn this, but I?d like to feel less of an 
> incompitent slug than I do right now! Thanks for any help.
> Kathy Nimmer
> "When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it 
> seems as though you could not hang on a minute longer, never give up then, 
> for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn." Harriet 
> Beecher Stowe
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:03:30 -0700
> From: "Sarah Clark" <sarah at sarahaclark.com>
> To: "Kathy Nimmer" <goldendolphin17 at hotmail.com>,    "National
>    Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] IPhone question
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> Hi,
> 
> Heather covered the resources really well so there's really not much more to 
> add on that.
> 
> But as far as the gestures, the primary ones I use are swiping to the right 
> with one finger to go to the next item, or to the left to get to the prior 
> item. (Or you can also just move your finger around the screen and Voiceover 
> will say what you are on, but swiping is a little more systematic way to 
> navigate when you're learning.)
> No matter which of the above methods you use, when you reach what you want 
> to activate you would double tap with one finger. If it is an edit field 
> double tapping with 1 finger puts you into the edit field so that you can 
> type. Then the onscreen keyboard comes up at the bottom of the screen where 
> you can type whatever you want. There is also a dictate button on the 
> keyboard to the left of the spacebar, which lets you speak what you want to 
> write instead of needing to type it out. It works really well and I use it 
> all the time.
> To access Siri you simply press and hold the home button until you hear a 
> ding and then you speak.
> When you're done speaking it will either stop recording (letting you know 
> with a tone) or you can just do a 2 finger double tap to stop the recording.
> This same 2 finger double tap is used to answer a phone call and to hang up 
> a call.
> 
> There are a couple of other gestures that I use regularly, but they are a 
> little bit more advanced and not completely necessary until you get a little 
> bit comfortable with using the phone.
> But in case you want to know for the future, they involve the roter. Your 
> friend can show you how to use that when you're ready. (Its probably easier 
> to be shown in person rather than figuring it out from written 
> instructions.)
> 
> I hope this is helpful,
> Sarah
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kathy Nimmer via nobe-l" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "blind teachers" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:14 PM
> Subject: [nobe-l] IPhone question
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>> I have just just just purchased an IPhone after a lifetime of no IPhone. 
>> Right now, I?d rather throw it through the window than anything else as it 
>> is all so foreign to me. Does anyone have a resource that is particularly 
>> helpful for learning how to use Voiceover and Ciri in particular? Also, 
>> which gestures do you tend to use over and over again? I have a blind 
>> friend coming soon to help me learn this, but I?d like to feel less of an 
>> incompitent slug than I do right now! Thanks for any help.
>> Kathy Nimmer
>> "When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it 
>> seems as though you could not hang on a minute longer, never give up then, 
>> for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn." Harriet 
>> Beecher Stowe
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:46:14 -0400
> From: Denise Millette <dlmillette at friendlycity.net>
> To: Sarah Clark <sarah at sarahaclark.com>,    National Organization of
>    Blind Educators Mailing List <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Kathy Nimmer <goldendolphin17 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] IPhone question
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> I believe Hadley has some webinars on the topic. Hang in there. It gets better. :)
> 
> Denise Millette
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Sarah Clark via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Heather covered the resources really well so there's really not much more to add on that.
>> 
>> But as far as the gestures, the primary ones I use are swiping to the right with one finger to go to the next item, or to the left to get to the prior item. (Or you can also just move your finger around the screen and Voiceover will say what you are on, but swiping is a little more systematic way to navigate when you're learning.)
>> No matter which of the above methods you use, when you reach what you want to activate you would double tap with one finger. If it is an edit field double tapping with 1 finger puts you into the edit field so that you can type. Then the onscreen keyboard comes up at the bottom of the screen where you can type whatever you want. There is also a dictate button on the keyboard to the left of the spacebar, which lets you speak what you want to write instead of needing to type it out. It works really well and I use it all the time.
>> To access Siri you simply press and hold the home button until you hear a ding and then you speak.
>> When you're done speaking it will either stop recording (letting you know with a tone) or you can just do a 2 finger double tap to stop the recording.
>> This same 2 finger double tap is used to answer a phone call and to hang up a call.
>> 
>> There are a couple of other gestures that I use regularly, but they are a little bit more advanced and not completely necessary until you get a little bit comfortable with using the phone.
>> But in case you want to know for the future, they involve the roter. Your friend can show you how to use that when you're ready. (Its probably easier to be shown in person rather than figuring it out from written instructions.)
>> 
>> I hope this is helpful,
>> Sarah
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Nimmer via nobe-l" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "blind teachers" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:14 PM
>> Subject: [nobe-l] IPhone question
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have just just just purchased an IPhone after a lifetime of no IPhone. Right now, I?d rather throw it through the window than anything else as it is all so foreign to me. Does anyone have a resource that is particularly helpful for learning how to use Voiceover and Ciri in particular? Also, which gestures do you tend to use over and over again? I have a blind friend coming soon to help me learn this, but I?d like to feel less of an incompitent slug than I do right now! Thanks for any help.
>>> Kathy Nimmer
>>> "When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it seems as though you could not hang on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn." Harriet Beecher Stowe
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 23:59:04 -0400
> From: Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com>
> To: Kathy Nimmer <goldendolphin17 at hotmail.com>,    National Organization
>    of Blind Educators Mailing List<nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] IPhone question
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> Hi Kathy,
> 
> I can sympathize with wanting to throw the IPhone through the 
> window, that was my reaction for the first couple weeks of having 
> one as well.  But as others have said, it does get better!  In 
> addition to the resources others have offered, the IPhone itself 
> has a tutorial feature.  Double tap on settings then on general 
> then on accessibility then on voiceover then on tutorial to bring 
> it up.  The way it works is that you try different motions with 
> your fingers on the screen, and the phone tells you what they do.  
> You can swipe up, down, left, right, or tap with one, two, or 
> three fingers in addition to the rotor motion, which involves 
> placing both fingers on the screen about an inch apart and 
> spinning them as if you had a dial with one finger on each edge.  
> I also use a bluetooth keyboard with my IPhone because the 
> on-screen keyboard quite frankly sucks.  Naztech makes a very 
> nice bluetooth keyboard that comes as part of an IPhone case so 
> that it basically turns the IPhone into a phone with a slide out 
> keyboard, and I believe that other companies make similar 
> products.  Something else to make sure of is that you set the 
> triple click of the home button to turn voiceover on.  That will 
> save you when voiceover crashes, which it does now and then.  I'm 
> still running IOS 6, so I'm not sure where you set that in 8, but 
> if it's like 6 it's a setting under general.
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kathy Nimmer via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org
> To: "blind teachers" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:14:48 -0400
> Subject: [nobe-l] IPhone question
> 
> Hello,
>  I have just just just purchased an IPhone after a lifetime of 
> no IPhone. Right now, I?? rather throw it through the window 
> than anything else as it is all so foreign to me. Does anyone 
> have a resource that is particularly helpful for learning how to 
> use Voiceover and Ciri in particular? Also, which gestures do you 
> tend to use over and over again? I have a blind friend coming 
> soon to help me learn this, but I?? like to feel less of an 
> incompitent slug than I do right now! Thanks for any help.
> Kathy Nimmer
> "When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, 
> till it seems as though you could not hang on a minute longer, 
> never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the 
> tide will turn." Harriet Beecher Stowe
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