[Ohio-talk] Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 66, Issue 7
Chenelle Hancock
filmchenelle1977 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 10 18:38:36 UTC 2013
hello vincent,
I am Chenelle Hancock and I attended tri-c community college eastern campus over 10. years ago. I did not have any difficulties with getting around the campus. Furthermore I did not even have an mobility instructor help me get through the campus. THE reason for this was because I have some vision but at that time I also knew people who were completely blind and they did just fine getting around campus.
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> 1. Re: Comment on an error that was posted to this list
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> 2. Re: Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus (Colleen Roth)
> 3. Re: Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus (Kaiti Shelton)
> 4. Re: Comment on an error that was posted to this list
> (Vincent Fugate)
> 5. Re: Vince F., FYI (Vincent Fugate)
> 6. July 29th DAN Minutes (COLLEEN ROTH)
> 7. Re: July 29th DAN Minutes (Wanda Sloan)
> 8. Re: Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus (Vincent Fugate)
> 9. Re: Comment on an error that was posted to this list
> (Vincent Fugate)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 05:34:54 -0800
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Comment on an error that was posted to this
> list
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> Hello Everyone,
> I think it is important to be careful about what we post on this list.
> Public criticism is not always the best way to deal with a situation.
> Sometimes we think something is accurate but we do not always know about the whole picture.
> I appreciate Deborah's post. It was a very good idea to have someone contact the appropriate person.
> Colleen Roth,
> President
> At Large Chapter;
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kaiti Shelton <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Aug 8, 2013 10:09:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Comment on an error that was posted to this list
>
>>
>>
>> I think it is important to note since convention is coming up in a matter of
>> weeks now that one of the major points of convention is to address concerns
>> or to see what we as an organization can do to fix these problems. There
>> are several things regarding blindness that are not perfect, but we can
>> never address the concerns an NFB member might have about them if those
>> concerns are not brought to our attention and the attention of the person
>> representing the thing or organization with the problem in question. In
>> fact, convention gives us the opportunity not to just share information
>> amongst other members to make sure our concerns are valid, but it also gives
>> us the chance to ask speakers about these issues directly. It happened last
>> year with the speaker from BSVI and the state Voc Rehab program, as well as
>> with a few other speakers if I remember correctly. I would encourage you to
>> not shy away from speakers you don't like. Listen to what they have to say,
>> then if you feel there is a problem that needs to be addressed ask them
>> about it. That is the only way to start things in motion and get things
>> fixed.
>>
>> Personally as someone who has grown up with CABOVEI and who has served in a
>> volunteer capacity for a number of years there, I think they do a pretty
>> good job of hiring blind people for their industries program. CABOVEI seems
>> to have a very positive philosophy on blindness and believes that if given
>> the proper training blind people can be independent. That is why they have
>> their industries program, and why their employees in it have not been paid
>> subminimum wages for well over a decade. It is also why some of the people
>> in the industries program have chosen to participate in some of the other
>> programs CABOVEI offers. I know a few participate in the music program, where
>> they are taught leisure skills including playing the guitar, singing, and
>> how to play other musical instruments.
>>
>> Kaiti Shelton
>> University of Dayton---2016
>> Music Therapy Major, Psychology Minor, Clarinet
>> Ohio Association of Blind Students, Secretary
>> NFB Community Service Group, Service Project Committee Chair
>> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma, Usher Coordinator
>> UD Music Therapy Club
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deborah
>> Kendrick
>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:49 AM
>> To: 'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Comment on an error that was posted to this list
>>
>> Greetings everyone,
>> I was troubled to read Vince Fugate's comment yesterday. He said that he
>> opted not to attend convention last year because CABOVEI director, John
>> Mitchell was speaking, and that he, Vince, disapproved of CABOVEI's policy not
>> to hire blind forepeople.
>> It troubled me, so I asked John about it. Here is his reply:
>>
>> "I have no idea what this person is talking about. Was he a former employee
>> in our Industries Program? We don't have Forman positions, actually we only
>> have one supervisor for the whole IP, Clarence Brooks who is legally blind
>> and has worked for CABOVEI since 1979."
>> Sometimes, when we read a comment on a list, we assume that it is rooted in
>> fact. I wanted to set this record straight.
>> Deborah
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 05:50:17 -0800
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
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> Hello Kaitie,
> Your advice is really very practical.
> I was probably the worst person when it comes to traveling independently.
> If I could muddle through traveling on campus anyone can.
> Of course most of my classes were in just a few buildings in the middle of campus.
> I walked with another student to my Art Class which was required.
> My Rehab Counselor had attended the same college I did. He was totally blind and understood my issues with travel.
> Maybe you can find someone who is blind who attended or is attending Tri c.
> You can also see if you can get some Orientation on campus.
> Why don't you just register and learn as you go.
> Get some orientation to the buildings you will need the most when you get your schedule.
> Go from there.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kaiti Shelton <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Aug 8, 2013 11:14:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
>
>>
>>
>> Vince,
>>
>> If you have not seen or received the reply to your post on the student list,
>> here is the jist of the suggestions I posed to you.
>>
>> Are you set up with state Voc Rehab services? If so you can get an
>> Orientation and Mobility Specialist to work with you. Mine was very helpful
>> in introducing me to the major parts of campus and showing me the routes I
>> would need to get through my schedule, where my classrooms were, and how my
>> dorm building was laid out so I would be confident when I got there. Some
>> O&M specialists are also duel-certified rehab teachers who can help with
>> things like labeling buttons on otherwise inaccessible objects that you
>> might use a lot. For me, this included labeling one of the washers and
>> dryers in the laundry room and my mailbox so that I would be able to find
>> it.
>>
>> Would a friend or family member be willing to walk through your schedule
>> with you? This might be the best way to get practice if you don't have the
>> option of getting an orientation and mobility specialist. Plus, you and
>> this person could go to the campus when it suited both your schedules and
>> practice as needed.
>>
>> Have you taken a campus tour? When I was first getting used to Dayton's
>> campus I took multiple. There is no shame in going through the same areas
>> with a tour guide to point out landmarks. My university even offered to let
>> me have a private tour so the guide could focus on points of interest
>> specific to me and the areas I would be traveling in the most. Often after
>> these tours my mom and I would stay after to walk through different areas of
>> campus and go over things like landmarks.
>>
>> Talk to your disability resources office and see if they have some options
>> for you. Even if they could make you a tactile map of campus, sometimes
>> that's better than nothing at all.
>>
>> I would encourage you to just get on campus and walk around with someone to
>> point out landmarks to you so you have something to go off of, but the other
>> option is to do as was suggested and fall back on just winging it. Practice
>> is the best teacher, so worst case scenario speak up and ask for directions
>> of someone on campus. Practice before school starts is ideal, but practice
>> in general will cement itself into a routine over time.
>>
>> Kaiti Shelton
>> University of Dayton---2016
>> Music Therapy Major, Psychology Minor, Clarinet
>> Ohio Association of Blind Students, Secretary
>> NFB Community Service Group, Service Project Committee Chair
>> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma, Usher Coordinator
>> UD Music Therapy Club
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barbara
>> Pierce
>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:57 PM
>> To: 'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
>>
>> You go, Cheryl! The Chamber of Commerce should employ you. And besides, I
>> agree!
>>
>> Barbara
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl
>> Fields
>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:45 PM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
>>
>> Hello All,
>> As a member of Cleveland ChapterI think our meetings are of a average
>> length, 1 hour thirty minutes to 2 hours, each meeting has an agenda, the
>> location we useis not open all night and we must leave before closing time.
>> There are chapter members that socialize at other times, recently several
>> items have been posted to newsline of a social nature by the Cuyahoga
>> chapter. Melina is a great contact for these types of events, she is open to
>> new ideas and tries to accomadate us. No one fits into the chemistry of
>> every group but, in Cleveland there are choices. There is another wonderful
>> chapter, Cuyahoga and you can contact Cheryl Fisher for meeting information.
>>
>> For orientation to a new area, there are several ways to make this happen.
>> Tri-C has an accessibility office and if you contact them with your problem
>> the school should assist you. Your state counselor is qualified to provide
>> the direction necessary to receive additional orientation and mobility
>> training. There is a another option, just do xffD it scared, do it
>> whilewhen unsure, but just do it! People may be more helpful than you think.
>> Cleveland is growing in many directions, finding something to do is never
>> the problem. There is new construction, great restaurants, many learning
>> institutions, we are a medical mecca, home of the Cleveland Browns and other
>> professional sports teams, world class museums, The Cleveland Orchestrathat
>> is housed in the best concert hall on the planet Severance Hall. We have
>> beaches, jet skiing, canoeing, rivers, fishing, islands, a new Elephant
>> Crossing at the zoo, Cleveland offers the best paratransit system in the
>> USA, and so much more. Most importantly we are a city with great folks that
>> love to work, live, and play right here in Cleveland, Ohio!
>> Blessings,
>> Cheryl Fields
>>
>> On 8/7/13, Vincent Fugate <vincentf2872 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My name is Vince, I am blind, and I am going to Tri C
>>> Eastern campus for the first time. I was just wondering if there are
>>> any other students that are blind that may be on this list that go to
>>> Tri C Eastern. I would like to get in contact with you. This will be
>>> the first time I am going back to college since I lost my vision, but
>>> I am a Braille reader, but I am new to the area, and Cleveland in
>>> general. I been to the Cleveland Chapter, but have found it hard to
>>> get an idea what's going on in that chapter since the meetings are so
>> fast.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Peace
>>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:02:26 -0400
> From: "Kaiti Shelton" <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
> Message-ID: <002801ce9543$c16fa530$444eef90$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Yes, Colleen's advice is great too. If you have your schedule already you
> can start learning before classes begin using one of the methods people have
> suggested, or you can use experience as your teacher (sometimes that is the
> best way anyway).
>
> Also, it is good to remember that even the best laid plans don't always work
> out. Classes can change rooms, times, and even buildings after registration
> has closed, and the college won't not move a class just because you have
> already learned your route.
>
> Example: Last semester a friend and I were both registered to take the same
> religion course, so before we left for Christmas break she showed me where
> our classroom would be. On the first day of the spring semester I went to
> the class, opened the door, and no one was in there. When I got out my
> phone to call my friend she had texted me with the information that the room
> had changed and directions on how to get there from where I was. Luckily, I
> had had my history class in the same room the semester before so finding the
> classroom wasn't a problem.
>
> It is really good to make contact with other students, probably more so than
> getting around since the friends can help you accomplish this in a pinch.
> You'll pick up on the campus in time, and just like that history classroom
> you'll have different landmarks that will stand out to you after a little
> while of routine, as well as some travel by trial and error. Most
> importantly, don't be afraid to ask for directions or try to find someone
> who is going to the same place as you. That first class would be a great
> time to introduce yourself, find out if there are people who are coming from
> the class before or going to the class you have next, etc. These other
> students can grow to be really good friends who will look out for you when
> things like room changes happen or show you where stuff is.
>
> Kaiti Shelton
> University of Dayton---2016
> Music Therapy Major, Psychology Minor, Clarinet
> Ohio Association of Blind Students, Secretary
> NFB Community Service Group, Service Project Committee Chair
> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma, Usher Coordinator
> UD Music Therapy Club
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Colleen
> Roth
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 9:50 AM
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
>
> Hello Kaitie,
> Your advice is really very practical.
> I was probably the worst person when it comes to traveling independently.
> If I could muddle through traveling on campus anyone can.
> Of course most of my classes were in just a few buildings in the middle of
> campus.
> I walked with another student to my Art Class which was required.
> My Rehab Counselor had attended the same college I did. He was totally blind
> and understood my issues with travel.
> Maybe you can find someone who is blind who attended or is attending Tri c.
> You can also see if you can get some Orientation on campus.
> Why don't you just register and learn as you go.
> Get some orientation to the buildings you will need the most when you get
> your schedule.
> Go from there.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kaiti Shelton <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, Aug 8, 2013 11:14:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
>
>>
>>
>> Vince,
>>
>> If you have not seen or received the reply to your post on the student
>> list, here is the jist of the suggestions I posed to you.
>>
>> Are you set up with state Voc Rehab services? If so you can get an
>> Orientation and Mobility Specialist to work with you. Mine was very
>> helpful in introducing me to the major parts of campus and showing me
>> the routes I would need to get through my schedule, where my
>> classrooms were, and how my dorm building was laid out so I would be
>> confident when I got there. Some O&M specialists are also
>> duel-certified rehab teachers who can help with things like labeling
>> buttons on otherwise inaccessible objects that you might use a lot.
>> For me, this included labeling one of the washers and dryers in the
>> laundry room and my mailbox so that I would be able to find it.
>>
>> Would a friend or family member be willing to walk through your
>> schedule with you? This might be the best way to get practice if you
>> don't have the option of getting an orientation and mobility
>> specialist. Plus, you and this person could go to the campus when it
>> suited both your schedules and practice as needed.
>>
>> Have you taken a campus tour? When I was first getting used to
>> Dayton's campus I took multiple. There is no shame in going through
>> the same areas with a tour guide to point out landmarks. My
>> university even offered to let me have a private tour so the guide
>> could focus on points of interest specific to me and the areas I would
>> be traveling in the most. Often after these tours my mom and I would stay
> after to walk through different areas of
>> campus and go over things like landmarks.
>>
>> Talk to your disability resources office and see if they have some
>> options for you. Even if they could make you a tactile map of campus,
>> sometimes that's better than nothing at all.
>>
>> I would encourage you to just get on campus and walk around with
>> someone to point out landmarks to you so you have something to go off
>> of, but the other option is to do as was suggested and fall back on
>> just winging it. Practice is the best teacher, so worst case scenario
>> speak up and ask for directions of someone on campus. Practice before
>> school starts is ideal, but practice in general will cement itself into a
> routine over time.
>>
>> Kaiti Shelton
>> University of Dayton---2016
>> Music Therapy Major, Psychology Minor, Clarinet Ohio Association of
>> Blind Students, Secretary NFB Community Service Group, Service Project
>> Committee Chair Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma, Usher Coordinator UD
>> Music Therapy Club
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Barbara Pierce
>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:57 PM
>> To: 'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
>>
>> You go, Cheryl! The Chamber of Commerce should employ you. And
>> besides, I agree!
>>
>> Barbara
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Cheryl Fields
>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:45 PM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
>>
>> Hello All,
>> As a member of Cleveland ChapterI think our meetings are of a average
>> length, 1 hour thirty minutes to 2 hours, each meeting has an agenda,
>> the location we useis not open all night and we must leave before closing
> time.
>> There are chapter members that socialize at other times, recently
>> several items have been posted to newsline of a social nature by the
>> Cuyahoga chapter. Melina is a great contact for these types of events,
>> she is open to new ideas and tries to accomadate us. No one fits into
>> the chemistry of every group but, in Cleveland there are choices.
>> There is another wonderful chapter, Cuyahoga and you can contact Cheryl
> Fisher for meeting information.
>>
>> For orientation to a new area, there are several ways to make this happen.
>> Tri-C has an accessibility office and if you contact them with your
>> problem the school should assist you. Your state counselor is
>> qualified to provide the direction necessary to receive additional
>> orientation and mobility training. There is a another option, just do
>> xffD it scared, do it whilewhen unsure, but just do it! People may be more
> helpful than you think.
>> Cleveland is growing in many directions, finding something to do is
>> never the problem. There is new construction, great restaurants, many
>> learning institutions, we are a medical mecca, home of the Cleveland
>> Browns and other professional sports teams, world class museums, The
>> Cleveland Orchestrathat is housed in the best concert hall on the
>> planet Severance Hall. We have beaches, jet skiing, canoeing, rivers,
>> fishing, islands, a new Elephant Crossing at the zoo, Cleveland offers
>> the best paratransit system in the USA, and so much more. Most
>> importantly we are a city with great folks that love to work, live, and
> play right here in Cleveland, Ohio!
>> Blessings,
>> Cheryl Fields
>>
>> On 8/7/13, Vincent Fugate <vincentf2872 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My name is Vince, I am blind, and I am going to Tri
>>> C Eastern campus for the first time. I was just wondering if there
>>> are any other students that are blind that may be on this list that
>>> go to Tri C Eastern. I would like to get in contact with you. This
>>> will be the first time I am going back to college since I lost my
>>> vision, but I am a Braille reader, but I am new to the area, and
>>> Cleveland in general. I been to the Cleveland Chapter, but have
>>> found it hard to get an idea what's going on in that chapter since
>>> the meetings are so
>> fast.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 95
>>> 7%40gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peace
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:01:09 -0400
> From: "Vincent Fugate" <vincentf2872 at gmail.com>
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Comment on an error that was posted to this
> list
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>
> Deborah,
>
>
>
> I was a former employee. I worked under Lois Wagner who was
> an In Flight Line Coordinator, and I was told specifically by her, and other
> managers there that a blind person was not allowed to supervise the floor.
> I saw a lot of other problems at CABVI also, but I have no intention of
> making an issue of it here, and that's why I was so vague in my previous
> post, and did not give specific names and titles. I was only stating why I
> would not support CABVI, and I am not at all surprised that they would deny
> they have a problem. Like Goodwill they are doing what they think is best
> for us, and of course they are not doing anything wrong in their minds.
>
>
>
> CABVI does do a lot of good, but I will say that there is a
> lot more going on there than they will admit, or maybe upper management is
> just not aware of these things. What I said is rooted in fact, and I can
> give a lot more information if it comes to that.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:32:45 -0400
> From: "Vincent Fugate" <vincentf2872 at gmail.com>
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Vince F., FYI
> Message-ID: <000801ce9558$c0f0f2c0$42d2d840$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Just to let everyone know, Cheryl provided me with the
> information I needed, and gave me a lot of ideas I did not think of. I also
> appreciate some of the other comments on this board about dealing with
> getting around in new places. I am very outgoing, but I still find it very
> frustrating trying to get to know new places since I have moved into a new
> city that I know nothing about, and I will say that I really don't have that
> much experience in this area, and I see I still have a lot to learn from the
> NFB when it comes to O&M.
>
>
>
> I hope no one took offence about what I said about the
> Cleveland Chapter. We all have different personalities, and backgrounds,
> and from my experience no one chapter is the same, and nothing is wrong
> about that, and I am not saying there is anything wrong with the Cleveland
> chapter.
>
>
>
> I thought that posting my issues would help me out, and it has done just
> that.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 20:30:53 -0400
> From: COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] July 29th DAN Minutes
> Message-ID: <20130810003053.n8tnv at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello Everyone,
> You will find the Minutes of the July 29, 2013 Ohio DAN Minutes attached.
> Colleen Roth
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:51:35 -0400
> From: "Wanda Sloan" <wsloan118 at roadrunner.com>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] July 29th DAN Minutes
> Message-ID: <001001ce956c$25b6d9f0$71248dd0$@roadrunner.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Can't find them I opened up the usual way and the page is blank. I tried
> it several times, even did a search for them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of COLLEEN
> ROTH
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 8:31 PM
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] July 29th DAN Minutes
>
> Hello Everyone,
> You will find the Minutes of the July 29, 2013 Ohio DAN Minutes attached.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:56:05 -0400
> From: "Vincent Fugate" <vincentf2872 at gmail.com>
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Getting to know Tri C Eastern campus
> Message-ID: <000601ce956c$c6b30270$54190750$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Cheryl Fields,
>
>
>
> I just want to make it clear that I am not trying to say
> there is any problem with the Cleveland chapter that I mentioned, and you
> are right that not everyone fits into the chemistry of every group. I know
> from personal experience that not everyone fits in to some of our chapters
> because I have had a lot of friends in the NFB that have left the NFB
> because they just gave up because they felt rejected because of their
> differences, or personal beliefs that conflicted with the average majority.
>
>
>
> I how ever do not want to just give up on the National
> Federation of the Blind because of personal differences because I have found
> the NFB to be very helpful, and life changing, and if it was not for the NFB
> I would of given up on life like so many in my family have done when they
> also became blind.
>
>
>
> My intention by posting on this board was an attempt to get
> to know people in my area that I may have common interest in, and to find
> the help I really do need, and I believe that I have accomplished just that.
> I am a very outgoing person, and I do just go out on my own, and I do just
> go out and find new places on my own quite often, but I am starting to find
> Cleveland a bit overwhelming, and beyond the scope of my abilities, and I
> see no problem with asking for a little help. There's more to my story, and
> a lot of other things I have been dealing with that have been causing me
> some frustrations, but instead of just isolating myself, and feeling sorry
> for myself I decided to reach help to the best organization of people I know
> of that have always been there for me whenever I get off track. I am sorry
> if my attempt to be open, and honest has offended anyone on the board, but
> this was the best option I saw for me, and it looks like it has worked out
> for the best.
>
>
>
> I do appreciate your post. I think if I just met you first
> beforehand my impression of Cleveland overall would be a lot different.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:30:28 -0400
> From: "Vincent Fugate" <vincentf2872 at gmail.com>
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Comment on an error that was posted to this
> list
> Message-ID: <000b01ce9571$943cd1e0$bcb675a0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> I did not know it was appropriate, or acceptable to do such
> a thing at a state convention.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> **************************************** you can also get in contact with the Access office located in building one of the eastern campaus. This is if you require further assistance. Bye the way, eastern campus is not as big as you may think. Its not as big as the metro campus is downtown is. I hope this helps you. Good luck on your first semester at tri-c eastern campus. The people are very kind and helpful too.
Sincerely, Chenelle Hancok Vice President of the Cleveland Chpter.
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