[Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti

COLLEEN ROTH n8tnv at att.net
Mon Sep 30 12:51:17 UTC 2013 

Hello Wanda,
You should probably avoid saying anything about helping a blind person. The question usually comes up when fund-raisers are held purporting that they help blind people.
For example, when a group said they were helping the blind and no evidence existed that the organization helped blind people this group's claims were questioned. Look at Dissolution to show how money is to be disbursed.
Some of the rules are not in the Constitution but are in the Requirements for 501c3 Organizations.
Those of us who have been to Leadership Seminars on the State or National Level have been taught the requirements for 501c3 Organizations.
There are also some National Policies which have been put into place.
Richard is not just being Arbitrary when it comes to his Stance on Fund-raising.
You are not the first person in the NFB who has been told that something is against NFB Rules.
The rules also have State Components and the NFB undergoes a regular Audit and has to fill out forms to be submitted to the Attorney General's Office.
Chapters and Divisions also must have their records in order. We can also be asked to submit materials to the Attorney General's Office.
The NFB of Ohio President or the National Office can ask for records at any time.
You cannot just raise money through the NFB for Personal expenses to attend an event.
This has nothing to do with Richard being Arbitrary. He is charged with following certain rules whether you like them or not.
The vote requiring members to be at the Convention before money was given out was a Chapter Decision.
It is possible that Richard could have asked the Board to make an exception but there may be some Internal Chapter Precedent that I do not know about.
Maybe someone took money and didn't go to the event.
Colleen Roth





----- Original Message -----
From: Wanda Sloan <wsloan118 at roadrunner.com>
To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'" ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti

>
>
> Thank you for your assistance.  I will read the constitution again to see if
> I might have missed something.  Using the NFB seems to be an issue because
> there are other issues .  Organization can do this if they don't use the NFB
> name for a fundraiser or event.  Am I not correct?  I understand rule and
> regulations but I get tired of elected officers making arbitrary decision to
> do just what the decide to do because they think they know the rules and
> constitution also.  NOT!  I just wanted to do something for our groups that
> I belong to because I was cheated out of chapter money which kept me from
> going to the National Convention this year.  I just did not want to happen
> again.  And, this can still be worked out, just not in the NFB's name.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of COLLEEN
> ROTH
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:59 PM
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti
> 
> Hello Wanda and All,
> I am going to let this up to Eric because obviously you do not understand or
> do not choose to understand.
> I do not care how many people are helping with the event.
> You cannot as an individual sponsor an event and say you are raising money
> for a Chapter or Division of the NFB of Ohio.
> This is totally against the rules which guide our National State and Local
> organizations.
> No member can take it upon themselves to get others to work on a fun-raising
> Project saying that it is sponsored by the Federation at any level.
> This has never been and will never be appropriate.
> We need to have Chapter or Division approval.
> Proceeds would go to the Chapter or Division after expenses. There would
> need to be a Paper Trail.
> We would not cosponsor something with another organization unless we
> approved of this ahead of time and it met all of our 501c3 Requirements.
> No individual would ever receive any money from the fund-raiser.
> If you read our NFB Constitution it is right there.
> NFB cannot have xs' name linked with this event in any way.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wanda Sloan <wsloan118 at roadrunner.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti
> 
> >
> >
> > No we didn't.  You are missing the point.  No chapter voted to do this 
> > because this is an individual person or person that happens to be 
> > member to the same organization.  My church is also assisting with 
> > this event.  I also belong to the same church.  There are plans for 
> > different choirs and musicians from different churches to participate 
> > in this event , just wanting to help with the project.  If someone 
> > wants to donate funds to a
> > 501c3 organization for a special event, there should be no problem.
> > Organization do this for each other all the time.  I know doing 
> > something like this is new and different, but we need to get off our 
> > Dari errs and come up with some new ideas to make funds for our chapter.
> > Understand?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > COLLEEN ROTH
> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:20 PM
> > To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti
> > 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > It is important that events be sponsored by Chapters and Divisions and 
> > that they be apprroved by the Chapter or Division Board or Membership.
> > We can't just decide as individuals that we want to do a Fund-raiser 
> > no matter how good our intitions are.
> > If we wanted to have a Fund-raiser in Toledo it would have to be 
> > approved by the At Large Chapter and we would have to have a Paper 
> > Trail of Expenses and Profit.
> > Because we are a Chapter scattered all over the State we wouldn't have 
> > as many people participating.
> > Some Chapters do give Scholarships to individuals for Convention.
> > The NFB of Ohio has asked that donations for Convention Assistance be 
> > given to the NFB of Ohio so they can be distributed.
> > I imagine that if a Chapter wanted to help some of xs' members with a 
> > Chapter Sponsored Event that could happen.
> > DAN didn't vote on having a fund-raiser either.
> > Colleen Roth
> > President
> > At Large Chapter
> > NFB of Ohio
> > Secretary
> > DAN of Ohio;
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dawn <dlanting at bex.net>
> > To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> > ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:35 am
> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Wanda  I think this event  sounds very nice   and if it helps  people
> get
> > > to conventions and other things  that they need to do  to help them
> learn
> > > about  blindness and their independence   I think this is wonderful  and
> > it
> > > sounds real yummy  something like this  I would like too attend if I 
> > > wasn't so far ay  perhaps  sometime soon  we could  do something 
> > > like this in or near Toledo  everyone have a great day Dawn
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > > richard payne
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:54 AM
> > > To: 'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
> > > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti
> > > 
> > > This event is not a fundraiser for the Miami Valley Chapter of the
> > National
> > > Federation of the Blind    .
> > > The chapter  has made  no such decision to be involved  with this 
> > > event
> > in
> > > any  way          We cannot sign off on sch.This poast forces me to
> speak
> > > on behalf of the chapter because I am the chapter president.  I know 
> > > the event seems to state that the money will help members attend the 
> > > state convention. Before the chapter wil get involved we must speak 
> > > about it in a meeting and that did not happen.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > > Wanda Sloan
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:26 PM
> > > To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> > > Subject: [Ohio-talk] Hallo-Sketti
> > > 
> > > Dear NFB Chapter Members:
> > > 
> > >  You  are  invited to attend a Spaghetti dinner called Hallo-Sketti
> > Benefit.
> > > This event is a fundraiser for the Miami Valley Chapter of the 
> > > National Federation of the Blind and the Diabetic Action Network of 
> > > the
> > NFB of OH.
> > > The funds of this event will assist some of the organizations blind 
> > > with travel expenses and, workshop and conferences for additional 
> > > training for the blind and visually impaired.
> > > The benefit is scheduled to take place on Saturday, October 26, 2013 
> > > in Dayton, OH., In Flannigan Hall, 3317 Hoover Avenue, at the Wayman
> > Chapel A.
> > > M. E. Church.
> > > The time will be from 12 Noon to 5 p.m.   If you or your chapter can
> > attend,
> > > please join in the fun by wearing your favorite Halloween attire.  
> > > There will be prizes given for the best costume for those choosing 
> > > to participate in this fun event.
> > > If any of your members are interested in eating a scrumptious 
> > > Spaghetti or Lasagna Dinner, a $5.00 will be requested at the door.
> > > If your organization can attend, please notify me at 
> > > wsloan118 at roadrunner.com or call me at 580-1792 or contact Gloria 
> > > Robinson at (513) 244-6171.
> > > Very truly yours,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ms. W. M. Sloan
> > > President, Diabetes Action Network of the NFB of OH Gloria Robinson, 
> > > Board Chair, Miami Valley Chapter, NFB
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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