[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Fri May 23 10:56:00 UTC 2014

Yes, but ACB also strongly promotes the use of braille.  Why wouldn't
any blind person strongly promote braille?  That would be like saying
literacy is not important.

On 5/22/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Ditto, Mariann. Patience is a weakness of mine, add me to your
> prayers. Blessings
>
> On 5/22/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I agree Cheryl, but I always tell God to give me patience and give it
>> to me now.  Patience isn't always one of my strengths.  I am extremely
>> patient with people but there are other areas where I am not patient.
>>
>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Mariann, Absolutely! To change it takes courage, one day it will
>>> happen. all we can do is control and change ourselves. Keep the Faith
>>> Blessings
>>>
>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no one else
>>>> seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully, people will get
>>>> tired of it one day and decide to change things.  I have changed my
>>>> own behaviors by refusing to work with Clovernook on any level but it
>>>> takes others to act too.
>>>>
>>>> I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct staff
>>>> but their administration and board.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to stoke the
>>>>> fire, let's do it!
>>>>> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board president
>>>>> and suggest forming consumer council committee. We have this and has
>>>>> become a useful tool, offering guidance, sugggestions, constructive
>>>>> critisim to agency. There should be a group of blind people that
>>>>> understand the structure of agency, financially and operationally to
>>>>> communicate what is acceptable and reasonable to consumers and agency.
>>>>> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not aware of
>>>>> how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb and this list for
>>>>> others to share concerns. Every now and then, we are too passive,
>>>>> sometimes a good fight can change that attitude.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the Toledo area
>>>>>> to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked if anyone from NFB
>>>>>> was on the board.  Often the board is made up of business people in
>>>>>> the community who have the ability to raise money for the
>>>>>> organization
>>>>>> and that is good but there also need to be blind people on the board
>>>>>> who can represent the needs of the people who receive services.  This
>>>>>> could also be handled through different committees providing guidance
>>>>>> to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until we get in and
>>>>>> work for change, nothing will happen.  We need to stop being so
>>>>>> passive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland Sight
>>>>>>> Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of Cleveland Sight
>>>>>>> Center
>>>>>>> may have relationship with Toledo. There must be a workable
>>>>>>> solution,
>>>>>>> it's disturbing to know that this is what is passing as rehab
>>>>>>> offered
>>>>>>> out there. Blessings, Cheryl Fields
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar problem with
>>>>>>>> Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have Cincinnati
>>>>>>>> Association
>>>>>>>> for the Blind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
>>>>>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
>>>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
>>>>>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to discuss
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center and
>>>>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> emphasized in any way for those who need it.
>>>>>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and stylus to
>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>> something down because it just fits in my purse.
>>>>>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they can read
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> not have something with them.
>>>>>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to read it
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> fingers.
>>>>>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's office and
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> someone's bedside.
>>>>>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone who
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>> to be read to while they were in the hospital.
>>>>>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in
>>>>>>>>> Church.
>>>>>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the Ambo to
>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>> Scripture for Mass.
>>>>>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings and
>>>>>>>>> classes
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> give me Braille on paper for many other things.
>>>>>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other food
>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an iphone or
>>>>>>>>> ID
>>>>>>>>> Mate.
>>>>>>>>> Colleen Roth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>>>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I believe
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> Braille is not as fast as a computer for communicating, I believe
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> still relevant and important. I think the website does a good job
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
>>>>>>>>>> Aleeha
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>>>>>>>>>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight Center I
>>>>>>>>>> > thought
>>>>>>>>>> > I would look at their website.  Below you will find what they
>>>>>>>>>> > have
>>>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>>>> > say about their technology services.  In the beginning they
>>>>>>>>>> > talk
>>>>>>>>>> > about
>>>>>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use braille...
>>>>>>>>>> > Read
>>>>>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened many
>>>>>>>>>> > doors
>>>>>>>>>> > for
>>>>>>>>>> > blind and visually impaired people. Although many blind people
>>>>>>>>>> > still
>>>>>>>>>> > use Braille, the opportunity to communicate faster and easier
>>>>>>>>>> > via
>>>>>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of
>>>>>>>>>> > communication
>>>>>>>>>> > including surfing the web as well as sending and receiving
>>>>>>>>>> > email.
>>>>>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person, computers
>>>>>>>>>> > offering
>>>>>>>>>> > large screens allow for enlarged type size and high contrast
>>>>>>>>>> > color
>>>>>>>>>> > patterns that permit easier reading.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>>>>>>>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>>>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
>>>>>>>>>> >
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053