[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Fri May 23 15:14:02 UTC 2014

Does your friend, Dawn have an open case with BSVI?  She could as a
homemaker.  If not, is she in the senior blind program?  Either way,
there is funding available.  I know funding is always a concern and I
don't have a problem with that but meeting consumer needs is equally
important.  Is there a consumer advisory committee?  If not, it might
be a great idea to approach them about starting one.

On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello,
> I know ACB promotes Braille. I can't explain this except to say that Dawn
> had pretty usable vision into the first couple of years in Elementary
> School.
> I am talking about Dawn Christensen who will be retiving from the Sight
> Center.
> I think the bottom line for her is profit.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, May 23, 2014 06:56:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>
>>
>>
>> Yes, but ACB also strongly promotes the use of braille.  Why wouldn't
>> any blind person strongly promote braille?  That would be like saying
>> literacy is not important.
>>
>> On 5/22/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > Ditto, Mariann. Patience is a weakness of mine, add me to your
>> > prayers. Blessings
>> >
>> > On 5/22/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >ar I agree Cheryl, but I always tell God to give me patience and give it
>> >ar to me now.  Patience isn't always one of my strengths.  I am
>> > extremely
>> >ar patient with people but there are other areas where I am not patient.
>> >ar
>> >ar On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>> Mariann, Absolutely! To change it takes courage, one day it will
>> >>> happen. all we can do is control and change ourselves. Keep the Faith
>> >>> Blessings
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no one
>> >>>> else
>> >>>> seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully, people will
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> tired of it one day and decide to change things.  I have changed my
>> >>>> own behaviors by refusing to work with Clovernook on any level but
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> takes others to act too.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct
>> >>>> staff
>> >>>> but their administration and board.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to stoke
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> fire, let's do it!
>> >>>>> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board
>> >>>>> president
>> >>>>> and suggest forming consumer council committee. We have this and
>> >>>>> has
>> >>>>> become a useful tool, offering guidance, sugggestions, constructive
>> >>>>> critisim to agency. There should be a group of blind people that
>> >>>>> understand the structure of agency, financially and operationally
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> communicate what is acceptable and reasonable to consumers and
>> >>>>> agency.
>> >>>>> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not aware
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb and this list
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> others to share concerns. Every now and then, we are too passive,
>> >>>>> sometimes a good fight can change that attitude.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the Toledo
>> >>>>>> area
>> >>>>>> to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked if anyone from
>> >>>>>> NFB
>> >>>>>> was on the board.  Often the board is made up of business people
>> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>> the community who have the ability to raise money for the
>> >>>>>> organization
>> >>>>>> and that is good but there also need to be blind people on the
>> >>>>>> board
>> >>>>>> who can represent the needs of the people who receive services.
>> >>>>>> This
>> >>>>>> could also be handled through different committees providing
>> >>>>>> guidance
>> >>>>>> to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until we get in
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> work for change, nothing will happen.  We need to stop being so
>> >>>>>> passive.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland Sight
>> >>>>>>> Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of Cleveland Sight
>> >>>>>>> Center
>> >>>>>>> may have relationship with Toledo. There must be a workable
>> >>>>>>> solution,
>> >>>>>>> it's disturbing to know that this is what is passing as rehab
>> >>>>>>> offered
>> >>>>>>> out there. Blessings, Cheryl Fields
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar problem
>> >>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>> Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have Cincinnati
>> >>>>>>>> Association
>> >>>>>>>> for the Blind.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
>> >>>>>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
>> >>>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
>> >>>>>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to discuss
>> >>>>>>>>> other
>> >>>>>>>>> things.
>> >>>>>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center and
>> >>>>>>>>> Braille
>> >>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>> not
>> >>>>>>>>> emphasized in any way for those who need it.
>> >>>>>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and stylus to
>> >>>>>>>>> write
>> >>>>>>>>> something down because it just fits in my purse.
>> >>>>>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they can
>> >>>>>>>>> read
>> >>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>> not have something with them.
>> >>>>>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to read it
>> >>>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>> my
>> >>>>>>>>> fingers.
>> >>>>>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's office
>> >>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>>> someone's bedside.
>> >>>>>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone who
>> >>>>>>>>> just
>> >>>>>>>>> wanted
>> >>>>>>>>> to be read to while they were in the hospital.
>> >>>>>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in
>> >>>>>>>>> Church.
>> >>>>>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the Ambo to
>> >>>>>>>>> read
>> >>>>>>>>> Scripture for Mass.
>> >>>>>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings and
>> >>>>>>>>> classes
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> give me Braille on paper for many other things.
>> >>>>>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other food
>> >>>>>>>>> items.
>> >>>>>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an iphone
>> >>>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>>> ID
>> >>>>>>>>> Mate.
>> >>>>>>>>> Colleen Roth
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> >>>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I
>> >>>>>>>>>> believe
>> >>>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>> Braille is not as fast as a computer for communicating, I
>> >>>>>>>>>> believe
>> >>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>> still relevant and important. I think the website does a good
>> >>>>>>>>>> job
>> >>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Aleeha
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>> >>>>>>>>>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight Center
>> >>>>>>>>>> > I
>> >>>>>>>>>> > thought
>> >>>>>>>>>> > I would look at their website.  Below you will find what
>> >>>>>>>>>> > they
>> >>>>>>>>>> > have
>> >>>>>>>>>> > to
>> >>>>>>>>>> > say about their technology services.  In the beginning they
>> >>>>>>>>>> > talk
>> >>>>>>>>>> > about
>> >>>>>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use
>> >>>>>>>>>> > braille...
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Read
>> >>>>>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened many
>> >>>>>>>>>> > doors
>> >>>>>>>>>> > for
>> >>>>>>>>>> > blind and visually impaired people. Although many blind
>> >>>>>>>>>> > people
>> >>>>>>>>>> > still
>> >>>>>>>>>> > use Braille, the opportunity to communicate faster and
>> >>>>>>>>>> > easier
>> >>>>>>>>>> > via
>> >>>>>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of
>> >>>>>>>>>> > communication
>> >>>>>>>>>> > including surfing the web as well as sending and receiving
>> >>>>>>>>>> > email.
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person, computers
>> >>>>>>>>>> > offering
>> >>>>>>>>>> > large screens allow for enlarged type size and high contrast
>> >>>>>>>>>> > color
>> >>>>>>>>>> > patterns that permit easier reading.
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > --
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> >>>>>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
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