[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Dawn via Ohio-talk ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
Fri May 23 18:44:14 UTC 2014 

Hello  I am in the homemaker program  this is what they do  Monica refers me
to the sight center  Megan is the homemaker  lady  it is now  called
opportunities for Ohioians with disabilities  hope I got it right  any ways
that is what I amall ready doing  it is so strange I have a mobility
instructor and computer trainer that comes from Columbus  and the homemaker
comes from the Sight Center the home maker program is what I am doing  not
too impressed  this is really for low vision if you ask me   and I am fifty
three years old  don't qualify for the senior program  but I would of done
it if did thanks Dawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf of Marianne
Denning via Ohio-talk
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:14 AM
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Does your friend, Dawn have an open case with BSVI?  She could as a
homemaker.  If not, is she in the senior blind program?  Either way, there
is funding available.  I know funding is always a concern and I don't have a
problem with that but meeting consumer needs is equally important.  Is there
a consumer advisory committee?  If not, it might be a great idea to approach
them about starting one.

On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello,
> I know ACB promotes Braille. I can't explain this except to say that 
> Dawn had pretty usable vision into the first couple of years in 
> Elementary School.
> I am talking about Dawn Christensen who will be retiving from the 
> Sight Center.
> I think the bottom line for her is profit.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List 
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, May 23, 2014 06:56:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>
>>
>>
>> Yes, but ACB also strongly promotes the use of braille.  Why wouldn't 
>> Any blind person strongly promotes braille?  That would be like saying 
>> literacy is not important.
>>
>> On 5/22/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > Ditto, Mariann. Patience is a weakness of mine, add me to your 
>> > prayers. Blessings
>> >
>> > On 5/22/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >ar I agree Cheryl, but I always tell God to give me patience and 
>> >give it ar to me now.  Patience isn't always one of my strengths.  I 
>> >am  extremely ar patient with people but there are other areas where 
>> >I am not patient.
>> >ar
>> >ar On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>> Mariann, Absolutely! To change it takes courage, one day it will 
>> >>> happen. all we can do is control and change ourselves. Keep the 
>> >>> Faith Blessings
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no 
>> >>>> one else seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully, 
>> >>>> people will get tired of it one day and decide to change things.  
>> >>>> I have changed my own behaviors by refusing to work with 
>> >>>> Clovernook on any level but it takes others to act too.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct 
>> >>>> staff but their administration and board.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to 
>> >>>>> stoke the fire, let's do it!
>> >>>>> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board 
>> >>>>> president and suggest forming consumer council committee. We 
>> >>>>> have this and has become a useful tool, offering guidance, 
>> >>>>> sugggestions, constructive critisim to agency. There should be 
>> >>>>> a group of blind people that understand the structure of 
>> >>>>> agency, financially and operationally to communicate what is 
>> >>>>> acceptable and reasonable to consumers and agency.
>> >>>>> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not 
>> >>>>> aware of how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb 
>> >>>>> and this list for others to share concerns. Every now and then, 
>> >>>>> we are too passive, sometimes a good fight can change that 
>> >>>>> attitude.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk 
>> >>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the 
>> >>>>>> Toledo area to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked 
>> >>>>>> if anyone from NFB was on the board.  Often the board is made 
>> >>>>>> up of business people in the community who have the ability to 
>> >>>>>> raise money for the organization and that is good but there 
>> >>>>>> also need to be blind people on the board who can represent 
>> >>>>>> the needs of the people who receive services.
>> >>>>>> This
>> >>>>>> could also be handled through different committees providing 
>> >>>>>> guidance to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until 
>> >>>>>> we get in and work for change, nothing will happen.  We need 
>> >>>>>> to stop being so passive.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland 
>> >>>>>>> Sight Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of 
>> >>>>>>> Cleveland Sight Center may have relationship with Toledo. 
>> >>>>>>> There must be a workable solution, it's disturbing to know 
>> >>>>>>> that this is what is passing as rehab offered out there. 
>> >>>>>>> Blessings, Cheryl Fields
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk 
>> >>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar 
>> >>>>>>>> problem with Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have 
>> >>>>>>>> Cincinnati Association for the Blind.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk 
>> >>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
>> >>>>>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
>> >>>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
>> >>>>>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to 
>> >>>>>>>>> discuss other things.
>> >>>>>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center 
>> >>>>>>>>> and Braille is not emphasized in any way for those who need 
>> >>>>>>>>> it.
>> >>>>>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and 
>> >>>>>>>>> stylus to write something down because it just fits in my 
>> >>>>>>>>> purse.
>> >>>>>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they 
>> >>>>>>>>> can read it and do not have something with them.
>> >>>>>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to 
>> >>>>>>>>> read it with my fingers.
>> >>>>>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's 
>> >>>>>>>>> office and by someone's bedside.
>> >>>>>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone 
>> >>>>>>>>> who just wanted to be read to while they were in the 
>> >>>>>>>>> hospital.
>> >>>>>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in 
>> >>>>>>>>> Church.
>> >>>>>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the 
>> >>>>>>>>> Ambo to read Scripture for Mass.
>> >>>>>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings 
>> >>>>>>>>> and classes but give me Braille on paper for many other 
>> >>>>>>>>> things.
>> >>>>>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other 
>> >>>>>>>>> food items.
>> >>>>>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an 
>> >>>>>>>>> iphone or ID Mate.
>> >>>>>>>>> Colleen Roth
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List 
>> >>>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I 
>> >>>>>>>>>> believe that Braille is not as fast as a computer for 
>> >>>>>>>>>> communicating, I believe it is still relevant and 
>> >>>>>>>>>> important. I think the website does a good job of 
>> >>>>>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Aleeha
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Center I thought I would look at their website.  Below 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > you will find what they have to say about their 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > technology services.  In the beginning they talk about 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > braille...
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Read
>> >>>>>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > many doors for blind and visually impaired people. 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Although many blind people still use Braille, the 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > opportunity to communicate faster and easier via 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > communication including surfing the web as well as 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > sending and receiving email.
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person, 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > computers offering large screens allow for enlarged type 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > size and high contrast color patterns that permit easier 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > reading.
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>> > --
>> >>>>>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are 
>> >>>>>>>>>> > blind or visually impaired
>> >>>>>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
>> >>>>>>>>>> >
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