[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Fri May 23 18:57:08 UTC 2014

Then it isn't an issue of money.  I would talk with my counselor and
tell her there is a serious problem with the services you are
receiving.  If that doesn't work, go on up the chain of command. If
the Sight Center can't work with a blind woman then find someone who
can.  I am sorry you are having all of these issues.

On 5/23/14, Dawn via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello  I am in the homemaker program  this is what they do  Monica refers
> me
> to the sight center  Megan is the homemaker  lady  it is now  called
> opportunities for Ohioians with disabilities  hope I got it right  any ways
> that is what I amall ready doing  it is so strange I have a mobility
> instructor and computer trainer that comes from Columbus  and the homemaker
> comes from the Sight Center the home maker program is what I am doing  not
> too impressed  this is really for low vision if you ask me   and I am fifty
> three years old  don't qualify for the senior program  but I would of done
> it if did thanks Dawn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf of Marianne
> Denning via Ohio-talk
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:14 AM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>
> Does your friend, Dawn have an open case with BSVI?  She could as a
> homemaker.  If not, is she in the senior blind program?  Either way, there
> is funding available.  I know funding is always a concern and I don't have
> a
> problem with that but meeting consumer needs is equally important.  Is
> there
> a consumer advisory committee?  If not, it might be a great idea to
> approach
> them about starting one.
>
> On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I know ACB promotes Braille. I can't explain this except to say that
>> Dawn had pretty usable vision into the first couple of years in
>> Elementary School.
>> I am talking about Dawn Christensen who will be retiving from the
>> Sight Center.
>> I think the bottom line for her is profit.
>> Colleen Roth
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Friday, May 23, 2014 06:56:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, but ACB also strongly promotes the use of braille.  Why wouldn't
>>> Any blind person strongly promotes braille?  That would be like saying
>>> literacy is not important.
>>>
>>> On 5/22/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> > Ditto, Mariann. Patience is a weakness of mine, add me to your
>>> > prayers. Blessings
>>> >
>>> > On 5/22/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >ar I agree Cheryl, but I always tell God to give me patience and
>>> >give it ar to me now.  Patience isn't always one of my strengths.  I
>>> >am  extremely ar patient with people but there are other areas where
>>> >I am not patient.
>>> >ar
>>> >ar On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>> Mariann, Absolutely! To change it takes courage, one day it will
>>> >>> happen. all we can do is control and change ourselves. Keep the
>>> >>> Faith Blessings
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>> I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no
>>> >>>> one else seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully,
>>> >>>> people will get tired of it one day and decide to change things.
>>> >>>> I have changed my own behaviors by refusing to work with
>>> >>>> Clovernook on any level but it takes others to act too.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct
>>> >>>> staff but their administration and board.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to
>>> >>>>> stoke the fire, let's do it!
>>> >>>>> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board
>>> >>>>> president and suggest forming consumer council committee. We
>>> >>>>> have this and has become a useful tool, offering guidance,
>>> >>>>> sugggestions, constructive critisim to agency. There should be
>>> >>>>> a group of blind people that understand the structure of
>>> >>>>> agency, financially and operationally to communicate what is
>>> >>>>> acceptable and reasonable to consumers and agency.
>>> >>>>> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not
>>> >>>>> aware of how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb
>>> >>>>> and this list for others to share concerns. Every now and then,
>>> >>>>> we are too passive, sometimes a good fight can change that
>>> >>>>> attitude.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>>> >>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the
>>> >>>>>> Toledo area to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked
>>> >>>>>> if anyone from NFB was on the board.  Often the board is made
>>> >>>>>> up of business people in the community who have the ability to
>>> >>>>>> raise money for the organization and that is good but there
>>> >>>>>> also need to be blind people on the board who can represent
>>> >>>>>> the needs of the people who receive services.
>>> >>>>>> This
>>> >>>>>> could also be handled through different committees providing
>>> >>>>>> guidance to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until
>>> >>>>>> we get in and work for change, nothing will happen.  We need
>>> >>>>>> to stop being so passive.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland
>>> >>>>>>> Sight Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of
>>> >>>>>>> Cleveland Sight Center may have relationship with Toledo.
>>> >>>>>>> There must be a workable solution, it's disturbing to know
>>> >>>>>>> that this is what is passing as rehab offered out there.
>>> >>>>>>> Blessings, Cheryl Fields
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>>> >>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar
>>> >>>>>>>> problem with Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have
>>> >>>>>>>> Cincinnati Association for the Blind.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk
>>> >>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
>>> >>>>>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
>>> >>>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
>>> >>>>>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to
>>> >>>>>>>>> discuss other things.
>>> >>>>>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center
>>> >>>>>>>>> and Braille is not emphasized in any way for those who need
>>> >>>>>>>>> it.
>>> >>>>>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and
>>> >>>>>>>>> stylus to write something down because it just fits in my
>>> >>>>>>>>> purse.
>>> >>>>>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they
>>> >>>>>>>>> can read it and do not have something with them.
>>> >>>>>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to
>>> >>>>>>>>> read it with my fingers.
>>> >>>>>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's
>>> >>>>>>>>> office and by someone's bedside.
>>> >>>>>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone
>>> >>>>>>>>> who just wanted to be read to while they were in the
>>> >>>>>>>>> hospital.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in
>>> >>>>>>>>> Church.
>>> >>>>>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the
>>> >>>>>>>>> Ambo to read Scripture for Mass.
>>> >>>>>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings
>>> >>>>>>>>> and classes but give me Braille on paper for many other
>>> >>>>>>>>> things.
>>> >>>>>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other
>>> >>>>>>>>> food items.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an
>>> >>>>>>>>> iphone or ID Mate.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Colleen Roth
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>>> >>>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I
>>> >>>>>>>>>> believe that Braille is not as fast as a computer for
>>> >>>>>>>>>> communicating, I believe it is still relevant and
>>> >>>>>>>>>> important. I think the website does a good job of
>>> >>>>>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Aleeha
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Center I thought I would look at their website.  Below
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > you will find what they have to say about their
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > technology services.  In the beginning they talk about
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > braille...
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Read
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > many doors for blind and visually impaired people.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Although many blind people still use Braille, the
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > opportunity to communicate faster and easier via
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > communication including surfing the web as well as
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > sending and receiving email.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > computers offering large screens allow for enlarged type
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > size and high contrast color patterns that permit easier
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > reading.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > --
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > blind or visually impaired
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
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