[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Sat May 24 20:15:47 UTC 2014

Hello Aleeha,
Well Megan does say that she knows some braille although she only knows the first ten letters of the alphabet.
As far as I know, there is no one who is proficient in Braille working at the Sight Center.
The exception is the Director who does know Braille but obviously doesn't teach it.
I just want things to change so that blind people who want to learn braille can be taught at the Sight Center.
As I have said we have the opportunity to get some things done now.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Saturday, May 24, 2014 01:30:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

>
>
> I know I'm a bit late on this thread, but I just wanted to point out
> that in no way do I believe that Braille is outdated or less important
> than computers. I use it daily and love it. I am merely saying that,
> although the sight does seem to talk about technology a lot, it does
> not say that Braille is bad or that it cannot be used in conjunction
> with other adaptive solutions. I much prefer Braille over everything
> else. I did not realize that there was no Braille teacher at the
> Toledo center. That certainly changes my perspective a bit.
> Aleeha, a proud member of OAPUB
> 
> On 5/23/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Then it isn't an issue of money.  I would talk with my counselor and
> > tell her there is a serious problem with the services you are
> > receiving.  If that doesn't work, go on up the chain of command. If
> > the Sight Center can't work with a blind woman then find someone who
> > can.  I am sorry you are having all of these issues.
> >
> > On 5/23/14, Dawn via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >ar Hello  I am in the homemaker program  this is what they do  Monica refers
> >ar me
> >ar to the sight center  Megan is the homemaker  lady  it is now  called
> >ar opportunities for Ohioians with disabilities  hope I got it right  any
> >ar ways
> >ar that is what I amall ready doing  it is so strange I have a mobility
> >ar instructor and computer trainer that comes from Columbus  and the
> >ar homemaker
> >ar comes from the Sight Center the home maker program is what I am doing
> >ar not
> >ar too impressed  this is really for low vision if you ask me   and I am
> >ar fifty
> >ar three years old  don't qualify for the senior program  but I would of
> >ar done
> >ar it if did thanks Dawn
> >ar
> >ar -----Original Message-----
> >ar From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf of
> >ar Marianne
> >ar Denning via Ohio-talk
> >ar Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:14 AM
> >ar To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >ar Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
> >ar
> >ar Does your friend, Dawn have an open case with BSVI?  She could as a
> >ar homemaker.  If not, is she in the senior blind program?  Either way,
> >ar there
> >ar is funding available.  I know funding is always a concern and I don't
> >ar have
> >ar a
> >ar problem with that but meeting consumer needs is equally important.  Is
> >ar there
> >ar a consumer advisory committee?  If not, it might be a great idea to
> >ar approach
> >ar them about starting one.
> >ar
> >ar On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I know ACB promotes Braille. I can't explain this except to say that
> >>> Dawn had pretty usable vision into the first couple of years in
> >>> Elementary School.
> >>> I am talking about Dawn Christensen who will be retiving from the
> >>> Sight Center.
> >>> I think the bottom line for her is profit.
> >>> Colleen Roth
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Date: Friday, May 23, 2014 06:56:41 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, but ACB also strongly promotes the use of braille.  Why wouldn't
> >>>> Any blind person strongly promotes braille?  That would be like saying
> >>>> literacy is not important.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/22/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>> > Ditto, Mariann. Patience is a weakness of mine, add me to your
> >>>> > prayers. Blessings
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 5/22/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >ar I agree Cheryl, but I always tell God to give me patience and
> >>>> >give it ar to me now.  Patience isn't always one of my strengths.  I
> >>>> >am  extremely ar patient with people but there are other areas where
> >>>> >I am not patient.
> >>>> >ar
> >>>> >ar On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>> Mariann, Absolutely! To change it takes courage, one day it will
> >>>> >>> happen. all we can do is control and change ourselves. Keep the
> >>>> >>> Faith Blessings
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>> I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no
> >>>> >>>> one else seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully,
> >>>> >>>> people will get tired of it one day and decide to change things.
> >>>> >>>> I have changed my own behaviors by refusing to work with
> >>>> >>>> Clovernook on any level but it takes others to act too.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct
> >>>> >>>> staff but their administration and board.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to
> >>>> >>>>> stoke the fire, let's do it!
> >>>> >>>>> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board
> >>>> >>>>> president and suggest forming consumer council committee. We
> >>>> >>>>> have this and has become a useful tool, offering guidance,
> >>>> >>>>> sugggestions, constructive critisim to agency. There should be
> >>>> >>>>> a group of blind people that understand the structure of
> >>>> >>>>> agency, financially and operationally to communicate what is
> >>>> >>>>> acceptable and reasonable to consumers and agency.
> >>>> >>>>> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not
> >>>> >>>>> aware of how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb
> >>>> >>>>> and this list for others to share concerns. Every now and then,
> >>>> >>>>> we are too passive, sometimes a good fight can change that
> >>>> >>>>> attitude.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
> >>>> >>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the
> >>>> >>>>>> Toledo area to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked
> >>>> >>>>>> if anyone from NFB was on the board.  Often the board is made
> >>>> >>>>>> up of business people in the community who have the ability to
> >>>> >>>>>> raise money for the organization and that is good but there
> >>>> >>>>>> also need to be blind people on the board who can represent
> >>>> >>>>>> the needs of the people who receive services.
> >>>> >>>>>> This
> >>>> >>>>>> could also be handled through different committees providing
> >>>> >>>>>> guidance to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until
> >>>> >>>>>> we get in and work for change, nothing will happen.  We need
> >>>> >>>>>> to stop being so passive.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland
> >>>> >>>>>>> Sight Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of
> >>>> >>>>>>> Cleveland Sight Center may have relationship with Toledo.
> >>>> >>>>>>> There must be a workable solution, it's disturbing to know
> >>>> >>>>>>> that this is what is passing as rehab offered out there.
> >>>> >>>>>>> Blessings, Cheryl Fields
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
> >>>> >>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar
> >>>> >>>>>>>> problem with Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have
> >>>> >>>>>>>> Cincinnati Association for the Blind.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk
> >>>> >>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> discuss other things.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> and Braille is not emphasized in any way for those who need
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> it.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> stylus to write something down because it just fits in my
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> purse.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> can read it and do not have something with them.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> read it with my fingers.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> office and by someone's bedside.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> who just wanted to be read to while they were in the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> hospital.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Church.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Ambo to read Scripture for Mass.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> and classes but give me Braille on paper for many other
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> things.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> food items.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> iphone or ID Mate.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Colleen Roth
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> believe that Braille is not as fast as a computer for
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> communicating, I believe it is still relevant and
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> important. I think the website does a good job of
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Aleeha
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Center I thought I would look at their website.  Below
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > you will find what they have to say about their
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > technology services.  In the beginning they talk about
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > braille...
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Read
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > many doors for blind and visually impaired people.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Although many blind people still use Braille, the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > opportunity to communicate faster and easier via
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > communication including surfing the web as well as
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > sending and receiving email.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > computers offering large screens allow for enlarged type
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > size and high contrast color patterns that permit easier
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > reading.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > --
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > blind or visually impaired
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
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