[Pibe-division] BANA Article on UEB & Nemeth

[Steve Jacobson]

You didn't even comment on my point.  This is the problem with the discussion surrounding this.  From what I know of this, BANA 
needs to figure out how to combine Nemeth and UEB before they can vote.  This isn't some sort of government plot but a sensible 
thing to do, figure out what is being voted upon before the vote instead of voting on it and then defining it after.  It does not 
indicate that minds are made up.  By all means write if you disagree, that makes sense, but also say why you think the vote should 
be delayed?  What is it that will change?  What research should be done?  We have people to think that we should be using NUBS 
completely and people who think we should use UEB.  There have been reading studies using both codes and the results were 
inconclusive.  I think the approach outlined is a reasonable compromise that gives us a platform for future changes while having 
the least impact on those of us who currently read braille.  If you think waiting until change is easy, you will wait for a long 
time, and braille will become a less effective tool for modern materials and modern devices.  The majority probably would prefer 
no change, but that isn't too practical unless we can force print to stop changing and stop publishers from using new approaches.  
This is a difficult issue.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:59:28 -0700, Hertz, Jana wrote:

>Please write a letter to BANA and ask they to postpone their vote,
>although since they did NOT release this article as a Press release, I
>think their minds are made up with total disregard to what the majority
>of folks want. Remember, they are NOT a government agency and have no
>legal authority. In addition, please consider expressing  your
>thoughts/concerns to your state and federal educational agencies.

>Jana Hertz
>Certified Braille Transcriber/Alternate Media Specialist 
>Program for Visually Impaired Students 
>George White Elementary School P-5
>25422 Chapparosa Park Drive
>Laguna Niguel, CA  92677
>(949) 489-7484
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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
>Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:41 AM
>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] BANA Article on UEB & Nemeth

>Wow, it makes more sense to me to use one system for text rather than
>use UEB for text and the Nemeth rules that govern text surrounding math.
>Why should we have to deal with UEB text plus Nemeth rules for text
>surrounding math?  It is my impression, though, that there is still work
>being done to figure out where the line should be drawn between the two.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700, Hertz, Jana wrote:

>>Good morning,

>> 

>>For those who are unaware (and interested), there is an article on the 
>>BANA website dated September 6, 2012, in which they describe how they 
>>plan to incorporate the use of Nemeth within a UEB transcription. This 
>>article reads quite differently than what the Press Release 
>>announcement of a vote in November seemed to indicate with the 
>>statement, "The direction under consideration is the adoption of 
>>Unified English Braille while maintaining the Nemeth Code for technical

>>materials."  I understood that statement to mean that the Nemeth Code 
>>would still be kept for all of the higher math transcription - not that

>>it would be embedded within a UEB transcription.

>> 

>>If nothing else, take time to read the SUMMARY OF FINDINGS AND 
>>RECOMMENDATIONS, on the final page.  At the very end, it states, "This 
>>report was accepted by the board of the Braille Authority of North 
>>America on September 10, 2012."

>> 

>> 

>>Jana Hertz

>>Certified Braille Transcriber/Alternate Media Specialist

>>Program for Visually Impaired Students

>>George White Elementary School P-5

>>25422 Chapparosa Park Drive

>>Laguna Niguel, CA  92677

>>(949) 489-7484

>>Fax (949) 249-6781

>> 

>>[if mail is returned undeliverable,

>>please resend to JanaBrailles at aol.com]

>> 


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