[Pibe-division] Fwd: iPad Beginner Question

Mon Sep 17 01:13:16 UTC 2012

Hi All,
Thanks for your suggestions. We had a great session today.

1. Using the Apex as a braille display we were able to open "Brave New
World" & "Siddhartha" in iBooks & able to read the first page on the
Braille display with the voice muted. However, we can't figure out how to
advance to the next page using the Braille display - the "O" chord opens up
the BrailleNote Options Menu.
Suggestions?

2. We were able to open up a txt worksheet in a Spanish class shared
DropBox folder on the iPad. We then imported it into Pages & able to edit
in there (to get iPad to recognize the Spanish letters, we had to change
language rotor to Spanish setting). One glitch however - we can't figure
out how to capitalize in Pages using the Apex as a braille display in
Spanish or English. Suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your additional insights & suggestions.
Eric V

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com> wrote:

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> *From:* "Mason, Amy" <Amason at nfb.org>
> *Date:* August 31, 2012 7:59:36 AM CDT
> *To:* Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com>
> *Subject:* *RE: [Pibe-division] iPad Beginner Question*
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>  I have some good news, and some bad news when it comes to your questions.
> ****
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> 1.        Choosing necessary  Rotor settings is a little tough.  If your
> kids like different “versions” of the voice, or want the voice to read in a
> different language, (such as if the 10th grader is in a Spanish class,
> you will want language in the rotor.  Volume is always helpful to me, but
> that depends on the setting the students are using it in, and as for most
> of the others, VoiceOver is fairly good at clearing out the unusable ones,
> so that only the context-relevant ones are available.  i.e. Headings mostly
> show up in apps like Newsline, or Safari, where they are used as markup.
> So, other than possibly volume or language, I would leave it at defaults
> unless there is something that is particularly causing trouble.  ****
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> 2.       If the iBooks are reading in VoiceOver, they will read in
> Braille. At this time some of the textbooks are not marked up well to read
> correctly in VoiceOver, particularly math and science texts where they are
> not using proper markup (and are often using images) to convey formulas.
> Apple does not appear to support reading advanced math and science symbols
> in VO at this time from what I have seen in my testing.  Either that, or
> absolutely no one has marked up this material correctly.  I cannot be sure
> of which.  Have you set up Braille  to work with Bluetooth already?  If so,
> the only thing that you need to know about iBooks and Braille that I can
> think of, is that at the end of each page the user has to do and “O” chord
> to move to the next page, and read past all the controls at the top of the
> page.  It’s been a while since I have tested this, I prefer reading in
> other book apps if I am reading in Braille, so I haven’t been buying or
> using iBooks much.  They may have fixed this since I last used it.  ****
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> 3.       Unfortunately, there is no way to set up a shortcut to any
> specific settings page unless the user jailbreaks their iOS device.  (Apple
> doesn’t allow it, and doesn’t allow most apps that allow a user to change
> settings.  On/Off allows a user to turn Bluetooth on and off, but that is
> the only exception I’ve seen to this rule.  It doesn’t allow for any
> configuration either, just turning it on or off.  ****
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> ** **
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> I hope that this is of some help.****
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> ** **
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> Amy Mason****
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> Access Technology Specialist****
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> National Federation of the Blind****
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> 200 East Wells Street, At Jernigan Place****
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> Baltimore, MD 21230****
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> Phone: (410) 659-9314 ext. 2424****
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> *From:* Eric Guillory [mailto:ericguillory at aol.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 8:12 AM
> *To:* Mason, Amy
> *Subject:* Fwd: [Pibe-division] iPad Beginner Question****
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> I meant to copy you on this message, but forgot to do that, as I am
> traveling and got rushed. When replying, can you send that reply to me, as,
> if you are not on the PIBE list, it may not go through. ****
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> Thanks so much, Amy. ****
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> ** **
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> Eric ****
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> Sent from my iPhone****
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> Begin forwarded message:****
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>  *From:* Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com>
> *Date:* August 31, 2012 7:57:53 AM EDT
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> *To:* Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <
> pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <
> pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
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> *Subject:* *Re: [Pibe-division] iPad Beginner Question*****
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>    Hi. I have been on the road all week, and still am. I have copied Amy
> Mason on this message, as she is a very capable and knowledgeable
> technology specialist at the National Center and can probably assist you
> greatly. I am certain that your questions are shared by several on this
> list, yours truly being in that number. A great weekend to everyone. ****
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> EG ****
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> Sent from my iPhone****
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> On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:45 AM, DrV <pumpkinracer at gmail.com> wrote:****
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>  Hi All,****
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> I'd appreciate your insights on 3 iPad/iPhone-related questions.****
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> 1. For a beginner totally blind user (5th & 10th grade), what do you
> suggest as the key "rotor" options for the most streamlined & functional
> experience?****
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>  ****
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> 2. What are the steps to tactilely read iBooks using the Apex refreshable
> Braille display? I know that the BrailleNote can be used to navigate & have
> VoiceOver read the book aloud, but my kids find it faster & more
> pleasurable (& they remember better) by reading the words tactilely
> themselves. Are all iBooks readable with the refreshable braille display &
> if not is there an easy way to tell?****
>
>  ****
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> 3. Is there a way to make a shortcut to the "Accessibility" setting or
> VoiceOver setting? ****
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>  ****
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> Thanks in advance for your time & insights.****
>
> Eric V****
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