[Pibe-division] Fwd: iPad Beginner Question

DrV pumpkinracer at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 03:05:19 UTC 2012


Clarification:
We can't get the first word of a sentence to capitalize; words mid-sentence capitalize fine (strange)...
EricV

On Sep 16, 2012, at 6:13 PM, DrV <pumpkinracer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Thanks for your suggestions. We had a great session today. 
> 
> 1. Using the Apex as a braille display we were able to open "Brave New World" & "Siddhartha" in iBooks & able to read the first page on the Braille display with the voice muted. However, we can't figure out how to advance to the next page using the Braille display - the "O" chord opens up the BrailleNote Options Menu. 
> Suggestions?
> 
> 2. We were able to open up a txt worksheet in a Spanish class shared DropBox folder on the iPad. We then imported it into Pages & able to edit in there (to get iPad to recognize the Spanish letters, we had to change language rotor to Spanish setting). One glitch however - we can't figure out how to capitalize in Pages using the Apex as a braille display in Spanish or English. Suggestions? 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your additional insights & suggestions.
> Eric V
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com> wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: "Mason, Amy" <Amason at nfb.org>
>> Date: August 31, 2012 7:59:36 AM CDT
>> To: Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Pibe-division] iPad Beginner Question
>> 
>> I have some good news, and some bad news when it comes to your questions.
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>> 1.        Choosing necessary  Rotor settings is a little tough.  If your kids like different “versions” of the voice, or want the voice to read in a different language, (such as if the 10th grader is in a Spanish class, you will want language in the rotor.  Volume is always helpful to me, but that depends on the setting the students are using it in, and as for most of the others, VoiceOver is fairly good at clearing out the unusable ones, so that only the context-relevant ones are available.  i.e. Headings mostly show up in apps like Newsline, or Safari, where they are used as markup. So, other than possibly volume or language, I would leave it at defaults unless there is something that is particularly causing trouble. 
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>> 2.       If the iBooks are reading in VoiceOver, they will read in Braille. At this time some of the textbooks are not marked up well to read correctly in VoiceOver, particularly math and science texts where they are not using proper markup (and are often using images) to convey formulas.  Apple does not appear to support reading advanced math and science symbols in VO at this time from what I have seen in my testing.  Either that, or absolutely no one has marked up this material correctly.  I cannot be sure of which.  Have you set up Braille  to work with Bluetooth already?  If so, the only thing that you need to know about iBooks and Braille that I can think of, is that at the end of each page the user has to do and “O” chord to move to the next page, and read past all the controls at the top of the page.  It’s been a while since I have tested this, I prefer reading in other book apps if I am reading in Braille, so I haven’t been buying or using iBooks much.  They may have fixed this since I last used it. 
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>> 3.       Unfortunately, there is no way to set up a shortcut to any specific settings page unless the user jailbreaks their iOS device.  (Apple doesn’t allow it, and doesn’t allow most apps that allow a user to change settings.  On/Off allows a user to turn Bluetooth on and off, but that is the only exception I’ve seen to this rule.  It doesn’t allow for any configuration either, just turning it on or off. 
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>> I hope that this is of some help.
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>> Amy Mason
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>> Access Technology Specialist
>> 
>> National Federation of the Blind
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>> 200 East Wells Street, At Jernigan Place
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>> Baltimore, MD 21230
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>> Phone: (410) 659-9314 ext. 2424
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>> From: Eric Guillory [mailto:ericguillory at aol.com] 
>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:12 AM
>> To: Mason, Amy
>> Subject: Fwd: [Pibe-division] iPad Beginner Question
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>> 
>> I meant to copy you on this message, but forgot to do that, as I am traveling and got rushed. When replying, can you send that reply to me, as, if you are not on the PIBE list, it may not go through. 
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>> Thanks so much, Amy. 
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>> Eric 
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com>
>> Date: August 31, 2012 7:57:53 AM EDT
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>> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] iPad Beginner Question
>> Hi. I have been on the road all week, and still am. I have copied Amy Mason on this message, as she is a very capable and knowledgeable technology specialist at the National Center and can probably assist you greatly. I am certain that your questions are shared by several on this list, yours truly being in that number. A great weekend to everyone. 
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>> EG 
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:45 AM, DrV <pumpkinracer at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'd appreciate your insights on 3 iPad/iPhone-related questions.
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>> 1. For a beginner totally blind user (5th & 10th grade), what do you suggest as the key "rotor" options for the most streamlined & functional experience?
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>> 2. What are the steps to tactilely read iBooks using the Apex refreshable Braille display? I know that the BrailleNote can be used to navigate & have VoiceOver read the book aloud, but my kids find it faster & more pleasurable (& they remember better) by reading the words tactilely themselves. Are all iBooks readable with the refreshable braille display & if not is there an easy way to tell?
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>> 3. Is there a way to make a shortcut to the "Accessibility" setting or VoiceOver setting? 
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>> Thanks in advance for your time & insights.
>> 
>> Eric V
>> 
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