[rehab] RSA Rules

Wed Jan 11 06:45:44 UTC 2012

I've never head of a spending value for an IPE. If you spend any money you 
need an IPE, because you're providing a service. Where do these people get 
their rules?

Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List" <rehab at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [rehab] RSA Rules

> RJ,
>
> Bingo! You got it! Only in this state, it's not the counselors, or not 
> just them. It's the whole shebang. I'm trying again because I keep hearing 
> all this talk about accountability and responsibility from the Board...
>
> Yet they have demonstrated so far that they have not taken the one key 
> step they should have taken years ago... And probably the funding for the 
> agency is doomed because of it. Sigh.
>
> Still, according to the "I'll believe it when I see it" rule, one must 
> arrange to be able to see it to determine whether or not to believe it...
>
> Also, I have all these really advanced skills that are highly marketable, 
> and the market is picking up in my field... Especially for a 
> contractor/consultant or telecommuter... Only the equipment package, which 
> my employer was prepared to buy so I could continue working for them and 
> advancing as I was, is a tad on the spendy side. Since the agency declared 
> me unemployable before even getting around to what they called a formal 
> assessment, instead of getting out to my work site to finish up some 
> details with my employer who was prepared to purchase as soon as that was 
> taken care of... I now need to have the toolkit here at home to start 
> picking up work in my field at anywhere close to my skill level. And 
> income level... Last gig I did here paid $100/hour, using the low end of 
> my skills; only I needed JAWS 10 (that long ago!) to continue with the 
> project... So I ended up having to bow out. Which says it all, because 
> under those circumstances, there is no IPE required, since the license for 
> JAWS professional is under the spending limit.
>
> So... I'm not very patient with them. Given the cost of the tools I need, 
> which their people have already agreed I need for my work, and the value 
> of the skills I can use to earn money in the returning market for those 
> skills...
>
> I might as well give it a shot and see what happens.
>
> Also, I do my regular market research update and all this time of year 
> anyway, whether I need to or not, so doing my regular prep for this won't 
> take any time I would be spending anyway. /lol/ Not much changes, but I do 
> like to keep track. It is always instructive, also, to observe the 
> reaction of a VRC from the agency to a consumer who arrives at the meeting 
> with her homework done and in a nice, neat, well-organized information 
> packet as if it were some sort of professional project or something... 
> Then when I remind them of this or that rule which I have memorized, or 
> pick out that part of the packet by feel of where I put the stapel or 
> clip...
>
> That's another reason I like to record these meetings. Peole prefer to 
> think I must be misunderstanding something or being oversensitive when I 
> describe the response as "hostile.
>
> On 01/10/2012 07:31 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>> Sounds like this councilor is incompetent! RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jane.Lansaw at dars.state.tx.us>
>> To: <rehab at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [rehab] RSA Rules
>>
>>
>>> Shhhhh, don't tell him/her/it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:01 AM
>>> To: Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [rehab] RSA Rules
>>>
>>> Well then my councilor is in violation of the rules then! RJ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jane.Lansaw at dars.state.tx.us>
>>> To: <rehab at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [rehab] RSA Rules
>>>
>>>
>>>> Good point.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Jan Bailey
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:12 AM
>>>> To: Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [rehab] RSA Rules
>>>>
>>>> Tell her you want to see the rule in writing. I'll bet she can't 
>>>> produce
>>>> it.
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List" <rehab at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [rehab] RSA Rules
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> unless they changed very recently, I find this hard to believe.
>>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my Apple Mac Mini
>>>>> Hit me up Voice/Text: (623) 565-9357
>>>>> Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/blindtech
>>>>> FaceBook: http://facebook.com/blindtech
>>>>> Website: http://thebt.net
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Tami Kinney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, everyone!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just talked to the new VRC for my area in Oregon. She told me
>>>>>> that RSA
>>>>>> rules say that communications between VRC and consumer must occur
>>>>>> face-to-face and cannot be done at all over e-mail. I can see why an
>>>>>> initial meeting would be best done one-on-one; however, I prefer all
>>>>>> communications occur via e-mail because that gives me a clear
>>>>>> record of
>>>>>> everything, date and time stamped, with all that other lovely header
>>>>>> information. Also, honestly, e-mail communications are so much more
>>>>>> efficient for everyone! Easier on the state budget, too, and all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is what the VRC told me about RSA rules requiring that all meetings
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> consumers be conducted one-on-one in person and that e-mail or other
>>>>>> forms of written communication are not allowed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, how long has that been the case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming that the majority of you are Braille Monitor readers, 
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>> the mention that I am in Oregon will reveal why I don't believe a 
>>>>>> word
>>>>>> anyone from that agency says unless I find out from at least three
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> sources. Or even one, since I usually can't find even that many.
>>>>>> Sheesh!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>
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