[rehab] question for the list

justin williams justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 6 20:47:07 UTC 2013


The program in Iowa I am referring to is a masters of rehabilitation program
for students; I should have made that clear.  I apologize.  It's not a pure
blindness program.  They wouldn't have four months.  

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From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Husseini, Sahar
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:53 PM
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We now do a 600-hour or four months training.  The idea of immersing someone
for just one week disturbs me a little.  I think you need enough time to
realize that blindness does not have to be scary.  One week spells out scary
in big bold letters for me.  Dick said it so eloquently about the training;
I couldn't add more to that if I tried.  Instead of trying, I am quoting.
*smile*  "It seems like those centers that have such a requirement also do
the best work.  That is kind of a no brainer, because staff immersion
training provides a knowledge base, an attitude base, and a confidence base,
all of which a person needs to work effectively with blind people.  As far
as I can tell, blindness rehabilitation is the only field that questions
such fundamental career preparation, and it shows in the kind of services
(or lack thereof) that blind people get.  If you can't walk the walk, you
won't be able to talk the talk, at least not convincingly."
Dick Davis

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From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lansaw,Jane
(DARS)
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:27 PM
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Amen to walking the walk.  When I was in Nebraska immersion was 3 months
flat for everyone.  Still, I'd like to find some data.  When I was majoring
in English Education, we did a lot of reading and writing.  Much of it in
the  Ed department was children's lit and teen lit because we were aiming
for certification in 9-12.  Looked like immersion to me.  I need to sell it
though and need more data than, the cool kids are doing it.  You and I both
know why it's a good idea but umbrella agencies are often lead by people
outside blindness and/or education.  I'll keep digging and watching the
lists in case someone comes up with a publication I can wave around.  

Yours on the barricades,

Jane


-----Original Message-----
From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dick Davis
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:12 PM
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Jane,
I don't know of anyone who collects such data; maybe Dr. Bell?  At BLIND,
Inc., we require new hires to go through three months of training.  I am
sure the same is the case in Louisiana and Colorado.  New Mexico requires
either two or three months. Nebraska is either three or six months, I
forget.  Iowa has training too.   I am sure BISM has a similar
requirement.  Hawaii does for sure.  It seems like those centers that have
such a requirement also do the best work.  That is kind of a no brainer,
because staff immersion training provides a knowledge base, an attitude
base, and a confidence base, all of which a person needs to work effectively
with blind people.  As far as I can tell, blindness rehabilitation is the
only field that questions such fundamental career preparation, and it shows
in the kind of services (or lack thereof) that blind people get.  If you
can't walk the walk, you won't be able to talk the talk, at least not
convincingly.
Dick Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lansaw,Jane
(DARS)
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 1:09 PM
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Hi folks,

I'm looking for some data because I'm curious.  I know a lot of training
centers immerse staff in non-visual training for a time when they are newly
hired.  I know why I think this is a good idea but I'd like to hear from
others.  Why is this a good idea?  Is there any data out there to support
the fact?

Thank you,

Jane Lansaw


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