[rehab] [Caution: Message contains Redirect URL content] Re: Being both a client and employee

Thu Jan 5 13:29:19 UTC 2017

Hello,

To me, it depends on the circumstances. I was served one time because my husband had moved to a different town. I was jobhunting there. I was eligible for services from thatangle. I probably would not have been eligible to get services just to maintain my employment here.

Having said that, one of the things we do as rehabilitation agency's is to promote the upward mobility of disabled people. If moving up requires rehabilitation services, I would say that is something we need to do. I do recognize that there are limits. I know many agencies provide services to people who make a lot more than their counselors, while their counselors by their own adaptive technologies and keep them up.

Good food for thought.

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> On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Justin Williams via rehab <rehab at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I did not think of it quite like that; it was written by a person without a disability serving an individual with a disability.
> Justin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deborah Allen via rehab
> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [rehab] [Caution: Message contains Redirect URL content] Re: Being both a client and employee
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> this is an interesting topic. You could refer the client to the Client Assistance Program to resolve the issue with the agency.  Maintaining and advancing  employment are supposed to be  priorities for VR agencies. 
> 
> This situation illustrates a larger problem with the way ethics are interpreted. When I review the CRC code of ethics, the focus  appears to be written from the perspective of a person without a disability who serves  a person who has a disability.
> 
> regards,
> deborah Allen, CRC, VRC 
> 
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>> On Jan 4, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Justin Salisbury via rehab <rehab at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi everybody,
>> 
>> Thank you for your insights so far. If it may be useful, the client that brought this to my attention is someone who is working for an agency but has career goals a bit beyond what they are doing currently at the agency. I guess I should call the person a "prospective client" because this person has been denied services. The person has been directed to the general agency because the Blind agency does not want to serve them because they are an employee and have confidentiality concerns, an agency which does not serve blind people, where the person has been denied, or found ineligible. It is being argued that, because the person has a job, the person does not have any impediments to employment.
>> 
>> Any more thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks!
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>> On Jan 4, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Fatos M. Floyd via rehab <rehab at nfbnet.org<mailto:rehab at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>> But, sometimes, staff needs long term blindness training which agencies may not be able to pay from their budget.
>> I was not talking about accommodations.
>> Thanks
>> 
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>> Fatos Floyd, CRC,  Field Services Coordinator Oklahoma Department of 
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>> From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of jam bailey 
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>> Being both a client and employee
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>> My agency simply paid for what I needed out of their budget such as reasonable accommodations, training Etc. I think that's how it should be.
>> Jan
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: [rehab] Being both a client and employee
>> 
>> Hello fellow rehab enthusiasts,
>> 
>> I have heard recently of a state agency serving the blind which has a practice of not allowing employees to become clients of the agency. I am told that this is because there have been confidentiality issues in the past. To me, this seems to violate the spirit of the rehab system, so I'm wondering if anyone knows if this is allowed.
>> 
>> Thanks for any input anyone may have!
>> 
>> Aloha,
>> Justin
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>> Justin M. Salisbury, MA, NOMC, NCRTB, NCUEB Opportunity Ambassador 
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