[Small-Appliance-Cooking] Resolution or accessible appliances

[laotab ~]

I would not want a specific device not to be mentioned on this list due to the moral injustice one may feel.  If it helps me in the kitchen, then I want to know about it.  make another list for offensive statements in the manuals for devices and the disabled.

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From: Small-Appliance-Cooking <small-appliance-cooking-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of David Andrews via Small-Appliance-Cooking
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:06 PM
To: Cooking with Small Appliances <small-appliance-cooking at nfbnet.org>
Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
Subject: Re: [Small-Appliance-Cooking] Resolution or accessible appliances

I understand, and live your frustration, but while I am not a lawyer, I don't think there is a legal hook to hang your hat on, in this arena.  That doesn't mean that we shouldn't do a resolution -- but to who. The Consumer Technology Association is starting to pay a little attention to accessibility -- but still has a long way to go. There may be appliance groups -- I don't know.

Dave

At 06:58 PM 4/11/2018, you wrote:
>I understand that this list is sponsored by the crafters division. I 
>believe that we need a resolution to address the large number of an 
>accessible appliances that are excluding blind people. If an 
>accessible websites the violate the ADA, some of these appliance 
>manufacturers should be taken to task as well. They are going above 
>and beyond to exclude blind people by creating an accessible touch 
>screens that are impossible to label because the menus change. I was 
>trying to get a new coffee maker, and it was very hard to find one 
>with buttons. Smart appliances are also great, but blind people 
>should not be forced to use them to make up for lack of 
>accessibility. We are paying customers and we deserve to be able to 
>buy appliances that we can use. We do not deserve to get shut out of 
>all of these new appliances, and we do not deserve companies that go 
>so far as to put in their instructions manual that we should not use 
>their products. This is wrong because it is discriminatory, and if a 
>blind person is using a product, and that product actually is 
>defective, unsafe, or has a problem, the company can try to get out 
>of it by saying that a blind person should not have been using it in 
>the first place according to their manual. I do not know how to 
>write a resolution or I would do it. I don't even know what 
>resolution would help. And we will also have to frame the resolution 
>in such a way that other blind people won't take away focus from it 
>by saying that we are entitled for wanting access to smart 
>appliances like they did with the Apple resolution. What do you all think?
>
>Sabra Ewing


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