[stylist] Doctors in the blind community

Thu Apr 2 16:51:52 UTC 2009

no,
I disagree with you sharply.

Dr. Mauer has poured his whole life into the organized blind movement.

by the way regarding  the "Dr. King" reference, I saw a black 
congresswoman on c-span just  tuesday make that reference.

at my vantage point I don't know whether martin luther king jr. 
earned his doctorate or whether it was honorary.  but in his case, 
the distinction  is without a difference as the idiom goes.
jc

Jim Canaday M.A.
Lawrence, KS

At 01:31 AM 4/2/2009, you wrote:
>Jim:
>
>Granted, doctor can ascend to the level of an affectionate kind of nickname,
>not the kind between friends, but the kind fans confer to the people they
>admire and flock to see or hear or whatever.
>
>Ii could understand Dr. tenBroek's case.  Okay.  But the others?  The
>Braille Minitor mention ed Dr. over forty times, and that's really unseemly.
>Don't you think so, too?
>
>John
>
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>John,
>personally I think you have a misconception about the use of Dr. and
>identifying the doctorate, whether honorary or earned.
>
>first, I know something about inferiority complexes, an out-of-date
>psychological construct, and our use of honorifics or titles does not
>spring from a perceived inferiority.  instead it is from a genuine
>desire to honor.
>
>have to disagree with angela, when I was in grad school, granted a
>while ago, I did address profs as "Doctor Smith" unless the prof in
>question told me to set it aside.  I did it because he or she earned
>it and I as a student felt it courteous  to recognize that, as it is
>part of that person's name.
>
>second, I think you are maybe getting caught up in the reading.  that
>is, as we express the titles as in TenBrook's case for example, there
>is even a reverence because of his leadership and sacrifice, much as
>in discussing the blacks' civil rights struggle you would refer to
>"Doctor King"  as for Martin Luther King jr.  and by the way I still
>hear blacks refer to him as "Doctor King."  and when they speak it it
>is reverence, pride, not an inferiority complex as you call it.  this
>is conveyed by the hearing of their stating this way of identifying
>"Doctor King" in a very proud voice often.
>jc
>
>Jim Canaday M.A.
>Lawrence, KS
>
>At 10:34 PM 4/1/2009, you wrote:
> >Lori:
> >
> >Don't you realize that using the Dr. actually dishonors them?  It makes
>them
> >look like wannabes, like teenagers in love with the idea of being a Dr.
>even
> >if it's not because of a real doctorate.  But I am sure they were great
> >people and deserve respect, but let me assure you that using the Dr. title
> >is not the way to do it.
> >
> >John
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of LoriStay at aol.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:22 PM
> >To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> >Subject: Re: [stylist] Doctors in the blind community
> >
> >Dr. tenBroek's doctorate was earned in College.   Dr. Jernigan and Dr.
> >Maurer's doctorates are honorary, awarded by colleges for their work with
> >the blind
> >community.   Dr. tenBroek started the NFB, and gave as much if not more
> >service to the Blind community as the others.
> >All three of these men deserve their titles.   It has nothing to do with
> >inferiority or superiority but with service.   The titles are well
>deserved,
> >and
> >we use them as a mark of respect.   This is not to say that many of us have
> >not
> >given as much service.   Probably we have.   But that's fine.   I don't
>need
> >
> >a Dr. in front of my name to tell me what I've accomplished.   At the same
> >time, I'm not going to dishonor those who have one.
> >I hope this doesn't become a controversy!
> >Lori
> >
> >In a message dated 4/1/09 11:11:28 PM, johnlee at clarktouch.com writes:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > I notice NFB's tendency to take pains to refer to people with
>doctorates
> > > > as
> > > > Dr.  Am I to read into this a kind of inferiority complex and if you
> >have
> > > > a
> > > > doctorate you make sure it is known and touted?
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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