[stylist] DBG 7 and domestic violence

Thu Sep 17 00:17:57 UTC 2009

Statistics are just numbers.  However, when trying to rationalize situations 
the numbers always backup one side of the argument or another.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "helene ryles" <dreamavdb at googlemail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] DBG 7 and domestic violence


> In my case there were scenes in our house but in this case the saying
> 'it takes two to tango' went since neither my parents were both at it.
> I don't consider them abusive as such. Not physically abusive although
> they  did throw tantrums around us and break things. So it was a good
> thing when they got seperated.
> The experience I had as an adult was differant though. It was
> physically as well as verbally abusive. It took my money but wouldn't
> accept who I was.
>
> Helene
>
> On 17/09/2009, Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net> wrote:
>> Statisticly sons who grow up in a home where the father is an abuser, the
>> son has a better chance of being an abuser also.  The same goes for a 
>> girl
>> in a home where the mother is being abused.  She will probably marry a 
>> man
>> who will abuse her.  The stats also show that the abused woman will go 
>> back
>> over and over to the man who is abusing her.  If the man is brought up on
>> criminal charges for his abuse, the woman will most often defend his 
>> actions
>> in a court of law.  You are right.  It defies logic.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "helene ryles" <dreamavdb at googlemail.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] DBG 7 and domestic violence
>>
>>
>>> Barbara: Thanks for your comments.
>>> Mr Murat is weak.
>>> He is also in love with this woman despite her nature. You would be
>>> amazed by things people over look when they are in love with someone.
>>> I've been through that sort of thing myself so I know first hand the
>>> kind of things one will do when one is in love with someone. Even
>>> after that person hurts me. Love is illogical and doesn't have any
>>> sense.
>>> I did meet a certain person who I was in love with. I also took drugs
>>> at the time which did have an affect of weakening thing my character.
>>> I'm a lot stronger now, but I've not been out with anyone else since
>>> then.
>>> I actually had a pillow stuffed over my head and I couldn't breathe. I
>>> felt my life was in danger. The social worker got involved but I ended
>>> up denying everything. I told them nothing had really happened (which
>>> wasnt true). That has to be one of the dumbest things I ever did in my
>>> life since it made it harder when I eventually decided to leave.
>>> That was a few months after getting my second guide dog. I spent 3
>>> weeks at guide dog training centre. Those 3 weeks were a great help to
>>> me. When I went back I was differant so I eventually left and made
>>> myself intentionally homeless since I still didn't want to talk about
>>> what happened there.
>>>
>>> I didn't leave because of what they were doing to me, but they Jilli
>>> was being drawn in too. Their dog was attacking her and she had to
>>> watch me being attacked too. If it wasn't for Jilli I think I would
>>> have stayed longer.
>>>
>>> Helene
>>> Helene
>>>
>>> On 16/09/2009, Barbara Hammel <poetlori8 at msn.com> wrote:
>>>> What if he was an exceedingly weak person who had no resources if his
>>>> current situation were to change?
>>>> Maybe he knows the truth but is more scared of her than the 
>>>> consequences
>>>> of
>>>> what she does?
>>>> I also thought Liza was angered too quckly.
>>>> Barbara
>>>>
>>>> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of 
>>>> whom
>>>> you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:01 AM
>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] DBG 7 (completely new chapter)
>>>>
>>>>> David, a social worker, says no one is in denial that long, and after 
>>>>> he
>>>>> realized the truth, he wouldn't go back to denial.
>>>>> Lori
>>>>> In a message dated 9/15/09 6:31:05 PM, dreamavdb at googlemail.com 
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why does it take the husband four children to realize what a monster 
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> married?
>>>>>> He is in denial. He loves this woman even though he must have 
>>>>>> realised
>>>>>> what she's like.
>>>>>>
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