[stylist] addressing audio cues and travel and the such

James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR n6yr at sunflower.com
Sat Jun 19 05:32:21 UTC 2010


I think is  also pronounced arking, as when electricity crosses and 
sparks between wires.
here means to draw an arc a r c in the air with the cane.  "form an 
arch or curve."  same definition for "arching" though what I have 
read the "arching" is more often describing   a static structure such 
as a church arch or the span of the bridge, and arcing [pronounced 
arcking] for something moving to describe an arch, curve.
jc



At 11:04 PM 6/18/2010, you wrote:

>Donna and others,
>
>
>
>JAWS (for those who use JAWS) pronounces arcing wrong.  It should 
>sound more like arching which is when you tap from side to side when 
>using a cane.  It is a verb created describing the motion which is 
>an arc!  *smile*
>
>
>
>Bridgit
>
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> > 3. useful resource (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> > 4. useful resource (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> > 5. Re: useful resource (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
> > 6. Re: useful resource (Donna Hill)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:10:06 -0400
> > From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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> > National Federation of the Blind Files Suit Against Four California
> > Law Schools
> > 
> <http://thebatchannel.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/national-federation-of-the-blind-files-suit-against-four-california-law-schools/> 
>
> >
> >
> > Posted by rbwatson1 <http://> on June 17, 2010
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *SAN FRANCISCO, June 9
> > PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --- *
> >
> > *The National Federation of the Blind (NFB), the nation's oldest and
> > largest organization of blind people, and three blind students who
> > have applied or
> > are considering applying to law school in California-Deepa Goraya,
> > Bruce J.
> > Sexton, and Claire Stanley-filed an amended lawsuit yesterday
> > against the Law School Admissions Council and four California law
> > schools for violating
> > provisions of the California Disabled Persons Act, the Unruh Civil
> > Rights Act, and the Americans with Disabilities Act. *
> >
> > *The suit was filed because the law schools require or encourage
> > applicants to use a centralized Internet-based application process
> > provided by the Law
> > School Admissions Council (LSAC) through its Web site (*www.lsac.org
> > <http://www.lsac.orgf>*)
> > that is inaccessible to blind law school applicants. Blind students
> > must
> > seek sighted assistance to use the LSAC system. Furthermore, blind
> > law school applicants cannot perform other tasks on the LSAC Web
> > site, such as
> > downloading official study materials for the Law School Admissions Test
> > (LSAT) that is required by almost all U.S. law schools. *
> >
> > *The four law schools are: University of California Hastings College
> > of the Law, Thomas Jefferson School of Law, Whittier Law School, and
> > Chapman
> > University School of Law. *
> >
> > *Blind people access Web sites on computers equipped with screen
> > access software that converts what is on the screen into synthesized
> > speech or
> > Braille. The keyboard is used instead of a mouse to navigate the Web
> > site and click on selected links or buttons. *
> >
> > *If a Web site is improperly coded, however, blind computer users
> > cannot access or interact with the site. The law school applications
> > available on
> > lsac.org are completely inaccessible to screen readers, requiring blind
> > users to resort to sighted assistance in order to complete their law
> > school applications. *
> >
> > *In addition, the practice tests and preparation materials for the
> > LSAT are not available in an electronic format that is accessible to
> > blind computer
> > users. *
> >
> > *Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
> > said: "The National Federation of the Blind demands that those who
> > control
> > admission to the practice of law obey the law. For too long, blind
> > people have experienced barriers to entering the legal profession,
> > despite a long
> > history of success and distinguished service by blind attorneys and
> > judges.
> > The National Federation of the Blind will not sit quietly while the
> > LSAC willfully refuses to provide the same services to blind people
> > seeking
> > admission to law school that it does to the sighted. *
> >
> > *The LSAC is engaging in blatant discrimination against the blind
> > and we will
> > not stand for it. Since all of the schools named in our amended
> > complaint either require or strongly encourage applicants to use the
> > inaccessible LSAC
> > application system, they too are actively discriminating against blind
> > applicants and we will ask the courts to hold them responsible for
> > doing so." *
> >
> > *The National Federation of the Blind and Ms. Goraya originally
> > filed suit against the LSAC for its inaccessible Web site in
> > February of 2009. The
> > complaint filed yesterday amends that action. *
> >
> > *The National Federation of the Blind recently filed complaints with
> > the United States Department of Justice against nine other law
> > schools across
> > the United States that use the LSAC online application system. The
> > Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department is investigating
> > those complaints.*
> >
> > *Plaintiffs are represented in this matter by Daniel F. Goldstein
> > and Mehgan Sidhu of the Baltimore firm Brown, Goldstein, and Levy;
> > Laurence W. Paradis, Anna Levine, and Karla Gilbride of the Berkley
> > firm Disability Rights Advocates; and Scott C. LaBarre of the Denver
> > firm LaBarre Law Offices. *
> >
> >
> > About the National Federation of the Blind
> >
> > *With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind
> > is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind
> > people in the
> > United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through
> > advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging
> > independence and
> > self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field
> > today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB
> > opened the
> > National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first
> > research and training center in the United States for the blind led
> > by the blind. *
> >
> > *Reproduced from
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
> > Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
> > Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
> > Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:23:03 -0400
> > From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
> > To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [stylist] addressing audio cues and travel and the such
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> >
> > Hi Bridget,
> > Lots of good nonvisual images here! I don't use a cane much and I'm
> > wondering what arcing your cane means. I'm not familiar with the term.
> > Thanks,
> > Donna
> >
> > Read Donna's articles on
> > Suite 101:
> > www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
> > American Chronicle:
> > www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
> >
> > Connect with Donna on
> > Twitter:
> > www.twitter.com/dewhill
> > LinkedIn:
> > www.linkedin.com/in/dwh99
> > FaceBook:
> > www.facebook.com/donna.w.hill.
> >
> > Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
> > cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
> > Apple I-Tunes
> > phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=259244374
> >
> > Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project
> > Donna is Head of Media Relations for the nonprofit
> > Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind:
> > www.padnfb.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is something I wrote up about a travel experience since we 
> have been discussing different methods of independent travel. 
> Perhaps this makes for a good writing prompt. It can be non-fiction 
> or make something up. Think outside the box too. Here is my first 
> attempt. It is based on myself.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A Day for Travel
> > >
> > > I stood in the warmth of the entry preparing myself for the icy 
> blast of the February morning. Heat streamed from the vent above 
> me, and I reveled in its embrace! To stall for time, I checked to 
> make sure I was properly bundled, then I lifted the face of my 
> Braille watch and felt the small dots and arrows that indicated the 
> time. It was now or never, I knew, as I took a deep breath and 
> slowly pushed the door open. I felt the instant change in 
> temperature, and my teeth began to chatter. I slid my long white 
> cane forward and found the first step down, then the next, then the 
> final step. The doors faced East, and I heard the crunching and 
> grumbling of the cars that drove along Fourth Street. I turned 
> myself to the right to begin my jaunt around the block.
> > > As I stepped with my right foot I tapped the cane to the left 
> attempting to keep it at least in a shoulder width arc. My black 
> high-heels clicked and clacked as my pace grew faster with my 
> rising confidence. My nerves slowed, and I started paying attention 
> to my surroundings, using the alternative techniques I had been 
> learning for the last couple of weeks.
> > > As I passed the alley separating the training center from the 
> Wood Smiths Shop, I heard the noise from the far side, and the wind 
> whipped through pushing me to the edge of the curb. My cane slid 
> down the curb, distinguishing the street from the sidewalk, and I 
> knew not to step to the left. As I arced the cane, I found the 
> parking meters that lined the street. I was half way down the 
> street, and I could make out the cars traveling down Grand Avenue 
> up ahead. As I approached the corner, I wrinkled my nose at the 
> grease and dough smell that permeated the air from Domino?s. The 
> air vent leaking the odor clanked in the wind, and I held my breath 
> as I passed through the noxious fumes! I arced my cane wider 
> searching for any objects as I rounded the corner. My cane tapped 
> against the first cement planter and I side stepped it as I 
> continued my journey west. So far so good, I thought to myself.
> > > I started listening for the parking garage I knew was coming up 
> and stopped when my cane found the curb. I listened to determine 
> whether any cars were passing through the garage entrance, then I 
> crossed the drive. My cane found the opposite curb, and I stepped 
> up and continued on.
> > > At the second corner, I heard the buzzing and tinkering that 
> came from the auto shop. Today the sound was not muffled since the 
> garage door was open, despite the cold. I felt a slight change in 
> the air around me, and the cars rambling along Fifth Street grew 
> subdued as I realized that I had walked into the garage. I stepped 
> back outside and caned nearer the curb to keep my course.
> > > I noticed I was moving up an incline and knew I was walking up 
> the ramp to the other side of the parking garage that encompassed 
> most the block. I turned around and lined myself up by paying 
> attention to where the warmth of the sun landed on my head. Even in 
> winter, you can make out the direction of the sun on a bright day, 
> though it is much easier during warmer months!
> > > I was once again upon the alley, but I slowed this time as I 
> heard a beeping that grew in intensity as I approached. My cane 
> soon started sliding underneath a vehicle, so I tapped around it to 
> find the sidewalk again and avoid the truck. It must be the mail 
> delivery truck, I thought. I kept my arm in front of and above me, 
> in case I came across a mirror on the truck. A few feet after the 
> truck, I found the stairs that would take me to the back door of 
> the training center, but I was suppose to travel the whole block. I 
> could not wait to be out of the cold and was extremely tempted to 
> cheat! I did not, though!
> > > Finally I was at the home stretch and quickened my pace as I 
> was eager to be back in the warmth of the building. About a third 
> of the way down, I moved closer to the building and tapped my cane 
> against the brick side. I was looking for the stairs and found them 
> at last. I held my cane a step ahead of me so I knew when to step 
> then slid my cane along the glass door seeking the handle. I 
> stepped inside, and my body tingled as the heat wave engulfed me.
> > > I flexed my numb hands and felt an internal heat as I had a 
> sense of pride over my first outdoor travel lesson without my instructor.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bridgit
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> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:12:24 -0500
> > From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [stylist] useful resource
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> > I've subscribed to the "a phrase a week" newsletter for some time
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> > jc
> > From: A Phrase A Week <apaw at phrasefinder.co.uk>
> >
> >
> > In the nick of time
> >
> > Meaning
> >
> > Just in time; at the precise moment.
> >
> > Origin
> >
> > The English language gives us the opportunity to be 'in' many things
> > - <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-doldrums.html>the
> > doldrums, <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-offing.html>the
> > offing, <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-pink.html>the
> > pink; we can even be
> > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/down-in-the-dumps.html>down in
> > the dumps. With all of these expressions it is pretty easy to see
> > what they refer to, but what or where is the 'nick of time'? It may
> > not be immediately obvious what the nick of time is, but we do know
> > what it means to be in it, i.e. arriving at the last propitious
> > moment. Prior to the 16th century there was another expression used
> > to convey that meaning - 'pudding time'. This relates to the fact
> > that pudding was the dish served first at mediaeval mealtimes. To
> > arrive at pudding time was to arrive at the start of the meal, just
> > in time to eat. Pudding was then a savoury dish - a form of sausage
> > or haggis (see also
> > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html>the
> > proof is in the pudding). Pudding time is first referred to in print
> > in John Heywood's invaluable glossary A dialogue conteinyng the
> > nomber in effect of all the prouerbes in the Englishe tongue, 1546:
> >
> > This geare comth euen in puddyng time ryghtly.
> >
> > In the nick of
> > time
> > That seems a perfectly serviceable idiom, so why did the Tudors
> > change it to 'the nick of time'? The motivation appears to be the
> > desire to express a finer degree of timing than the vague 'around the
> > beginning of the meal'. The nick that was being referred to was a
> > notch or small cut and was synonymous with precision. Such notches
> > were used on 'tally' sticks to measure or keep score.
> >
> > Note: the expressions 'keeping score' and 'keeping tally' derive from
> > this and so do 'stocks' and 'shares', which refer to the splitting of
> > such sticks (stocks) along their length and sharing the two matching
> > halves as a record of a deal.
> >
> > If someone is now said to be 'in the nick' the English would expect
> > him to be found in prison, the Scots would picture him in the valley
> > between two hills and Australians would imagine him to be naked. To
> > Shakespeare and his contemporaries if someone were 'in (or at, or
> > upon) the (very) nick' they were in the precise place at the precise
> > time. Watches and the strings of musical instruments were adjusted to
> > precise pre-marked nicks to keep them in proper order. Ben Jonson
> > makes a reference to that in the play Pans Anniversary, circa 1637:
> >
> > For to these, there is annexed a clock-keeper, a grave person, as
> > Time himself, who is to see that they all keep time to a nick.
> >
> > Arthur Golding gave what is likely to be the first example of the use
> > of 'nick' in this context in his translation of Ovid's Metamorphosis, 1565:
> >
> > Another thing cleane overthwart there commeth in the nicke:
> > The Ladie Semell great with childe by Jove as then was quicke.
> >
> > The 'time' in 'the nick of time' is rather superfluous, as nick
> > itself refers to time. The first example of the use of the phrase as
> > we now know it comes in Arthur Day's Festivals, 1615:
> >
> > Even in this nicke of time, this very, very instant.
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> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:12:24 -0500
> > From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [stylist] useful resource
> > Message-ID: <201006172213.o5HMD74d032698 at smtp.sunflower.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
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> > I've subscribed to the "a phrase a week" newsletter for some time
> > now. don't think have shared it here. below you'll see yesterday's.
> > jc
> > From: A Phrase A Week <apaw at phrasefinder.co.uk>
> >
> >
> > In the nick of time
> >
> > Meaning
> >
> > Just in time; at the precise moment.
> >
> > Origin
> >
> > The English language gives us the opportunity to be 'in' many things
> > - <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-doldrums.html>the
> > doldrums, <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-offing.html>the
> > offing, <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-pink.html>the
> > pink; we can even be
> > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/down-in-the-dumps.html>down in
> > the dumps. With all of these expressions it is pretty easy to see
> > what they refer to, but what or where is the 'nick of time'? It may
> > not be immediately obvious what the nick of time is, but we do know
> > what it means to be in it, i.e. arriving at the last propitious
> > moment. Prior to the 16th century there was another expression used
> > to convey that meaning - 'pudding time'. This relates to the fact
> > that pudding was the dish served first at mediaeval mealtimes. To
> > arrive at pudding time was to arrive at the start of the meal, just
> > in time to eat. Pudding was then a savoury dish - a form of sausage
> > or haggis (see also
> > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html>the
> > proof is in the pudding). Pudding time is first referred to in print
> > in John Heywood's invaluable glossary A dialogue conteinyng the
> > nomber in effect of all the prouerbes in the Englishe tongue, 1546:
> >
> > This geare comth euen in puddyng time ryghtly.
> >
> > In the nick of
> > time
> > That seems a perfectly serviceable idiom, so why did the Tudors
> > change it to 'the nick of time'? The motivation appears to be the
> > desire to express a finer degree of timing than the vague 'around the
> > beginning of the meal'. The nick that was being referred to was a
> > notch or small cut and was synonymous with precision. Such notches
> > were used on 'tally' sticks to measure or keep score.
> >
> > Note: the expressions 'keeping score' and 'keeping tally' derive from
> > this and so do 'stocks' and 'shares', which refer to the splitting of
> > such sticks (stocks) along their length and sharing the two matching
> > halves as a record of a deal.
> >
> > If someone is now said to be 'in the nick' the English would expect
> > him to be found in prison, the Scots would picture him in the valley
> > between two hills and Australians would imagine him to be naked. To
> > Shakespeare and his contemporaries if someone were 'in (or at, or
> > upon) the (very) nick' they were in the precise place at the precise
> > time. Watches and the strings of musical instruments were adjusted to
> > precise pre-marked nicks to keep them in proper order. Ben Jonson
> > makes a reference to that in the play Pans Anniversary, circa 1637:
> >
> > For to these, there is annexed a clock-keeper, a grave person, as
> > Time himself, who is to see that they all keep time to a nick.
> >
> > Arthur Golding gave what is likely to be the first example of the use
> > of 'nick' in this context in his translation of Ovid's Metamorphosis, 1565:
> >
> > Another thing cleane overthwart there commeth in the nicke:
> > The Ladie Semell great with childe by Jove as then was quicke.
> >
> > The 'time' in 'the nick of time' is rather superfluous, as nick
> > itself refers to time. The first example of the use of the phrase as
> > we now know it comes in Arthur Day's Festivals, 1615:
> >
> > Even in this nicke of time, this very, very instant.
> >
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> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:14:33 -0500
> > From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
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> > apologies for the double post, my e-mail program had a little glitch.
> > jc
> >
> > At 05:12 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
> > >I've subscribed to the "a phrase a week" newsletter for some time
> > >now. don't think have shared it here. below you'll see yesterday's.
> > >jc
> > >From: A Phrase A Week <apaw at phrasefinder.co.uk>
> > >
> > >
> > >In the nick of time
> > >
> > >Meaning
> > >
> > >Just in time; at the precise moment.
> > >
> > >Origin
> > >
> > >The English language gives us the opportunity to be 'in' many things
> > >- <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-doldrums.html>the
> > >doldrums, <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-offing.html>the
> > >offing, <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-pink.html>the
> > >pink; we can even be
> > ><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/down-in-the-dumps.html>down in
> > >the dumps. With all of these expressions it is pretty easy to see
> > >what they refer to, but what or where is the 'nick of time'? It may
> > >not be immediately obvious what the nick of time is, but we do know
> > >what it means to be in it, i.e. arriving at the last propitious
> > >moment. Prior to the 16th century there was another expression used
> > >to convey that meaning - 'pudding time'. This relates to the fact
> > >that pudding was the dish served first at mediaeval mealtimes. To
> > >arrive at pudding time was to arrive at the start of the meal, just
> > >in time to eat. Pudding was then a savoury dish - a form of sausage
> > >or haggis (see also
> > ><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html>the
> > >proof is in the pudding). Pudding time is first referred to in print
> > >in John Heywood's invaluable glossary A dialogue conteinyng the
> > >nomber in effect of all the prouerbes in the Englishe tongue, 1546:
> > >
> > >This geare comth euen in puddyng time ryghtly.
> > >
> > >In the nick of
> > >time
> > >That seems a perfectly serviceable idiom, so why did the Tudors
> > >change it to 'the nick of time'? The motivation appears to be the
> > >desire to express a finer degree of timing than the vague 'around
> > >the beginning of the meal'. The nick that was being referred to was
> > >a notch or small cut and was synonymous with precision. Such notches
> > >were used on 'tally' sticks to measure or keep score.
> > >
> > >Note: the expressions 'keeping score' and 'keeping tally' derive
> > >from this and so do 'stocks' and 'shares', which refer to the
> > >splitting of such sticks (stocks) along their length and sharing the
> > >two matching halves as a record of a deal.
> > >
> > >If someone is now said to be 'in the nick' the English would expect
> > >him to be found in prison, the Scots would picture him in the valley
> > >between two hills and Australians would imagine him to be naked. To
> > >Shakespeare and his contemporaries if someone were 'in (or at, or
> > >upon) the (very) nick' they were in the precise place at the precise
> > >time. Watches and the strings of musical instruments were adjusted
> > >to precise pre-marked nicks to keep them in proper order. Ben Jonson
> > >makes a reference to that in the play Pans Anniversary, circa 1637:
> > >
> > >For to these, there is annexed a clock-keeper, a grave person, as
> > >Time himself, who is to see that they all keep time to a nick.
> > >
> > >Arthur Golding gave what is likely to be the first example of the
> > >use of 'nick' in this context in his translation of Ovid's 
> Metamorphosis, 1565:
> > >
> > >Another thing cleane overthwart there commeth in the nicke:
> > >The Ladie Semell great with childe by Jove as then was quicke.
> > >
> > >The 'time' in 'the nick of time' is rather superfluous, as nick
> > >itself refers to time. The first example of the use of the phrase as
> > >we now know it comes in Arthur Day's Festivals, 1615:
> > >
> > >Even in this nicke of time, this very, very instant.
> > >
> > >
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> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:51:07 -0400
> > From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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> > Jim, This is excellent! Thanks for sharing. Donna
> >
> > Read Donna's articles on
> > Suite 101:
> > www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
> > American Chronicle:
> > www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
> >
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> > James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR wrote:
> > > I've subscribed to the "a phrase a week" newsletter for some time
> > > now. don't think have shared it here. below you'll see yesterday's.
> > > jc
> > > From: A Phrase A Week <apaw at phrasefinder.co.uk>
> > >
> > >
> > > In the nick of time
> > >
> > > Meaning
> > >
> > > Just in time; at the precise moment.
> > >
> > > Origin
> > >
> > > The English language gives us the opportunity to be 'in' many things -
> > > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-doldrums.html>the doldrums,
> > > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-offing.html>the offing,
> > > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-pink.html>the pink; we can
> > > even be
> > > <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/down-in-the-dumps.html>down in the
> > > dumps. With all of these expressions it is pretty easy to see what
> > > they refer to, but what or where is the 'nick of time'? It may not be
> > > immediately obvious what the nick of time is, but we do know what it
> > > means to be in it, i.e. arriving at the last propitious moment. Prior
> > > to the 16th century there was another expression used to convey that
> > > meaning - 'pudding time'. This relates to the fact that pudding was
> > > the dish served first at mediaeval mealtimes. To arrive at pudding
> > > time was to arrive at the start of the meal, just in time to eat.
> > > Pudding was then a savoury dish - a form of sausage or haggis (see
> > > also <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html>the
> > > proof is in the pudding). Pudding time is first referred to in print
> > > in John Heywood's invaluable glossary A dialogue conteinyng the nomber
> > > in effect of all the prouerbes in the Englishe tongue, 1546:
> > >
> > > This geare comth euen in puddyng time ryghtly.
> > >
> > > In the nick of
> > > time
> > > That seems a perfectly serviceable idiom, so why did the Tudors change
> > > it to 'the nick of time'? The motivation appears to be the desire to
> > > express a finer degree of timing than the vague 'around the beginning
> > > of the meal'. The nick that was being referred to was a notch or small
> > > cut and was synonymous with precision. Such notches were used on
> > > 'tally' sticks to measure or keep score.
> > >
> > > Note: the expressions 'keeping score' and 'keeping tally' derive from
> > > this and so do 'stocks' and 'shares', which refer to the splitting of
> > > such sticks (stocks) along their length and sharing the two matching
> > > halves as a record of a deal.
> > >
> > > If someone is now said to be 'in the nick' the English would expect
> > > him to be found in prison, the Scots would picture him in the valley
> > > between two hills and Australians would imagine him to be naked. To
> > > Shakespeare and his contemporaries if someone were 'in (or at, or
> > > upon) the (very) nick' they were in the precise place at the precise
> > > time. Watches and the strings of musical instruments were adjusted to
> > > precise pre-marked nicks to keep them in proper order. Ben Jonson
> > > makes a reference to that in the play Pans Anniversary, circa 1637:
> > >
> > > For to these, there is annexed a clock-keeper, a grave person, as Time
> > > himself, who is to see that they all keep time to a nick.
> > >
> > > Arthur Golding gave what is likely to be the first example of the use
> > > of 'nick' in this context in his translation of Ovid's Metamorphosis,
> > > 1565:
> > >
> > > Another thing cleane overthwart there commeth in the nicke:
> > > The Ladie Semell great with childe by Jove as then was quicke.
> > >
> > > The 'time' in 'the nick of time' is rather superfluous, as nick itself
> > > refers to time. The first example of the use of the phrase as we now
> > > know it comes in Arthur Day's Festivals, 1615:
> > >
> > > Even in this nicke of time, this very, very instant.
> > >
> > >
> > > - The PhraseFinder site's new and updated content is notified on
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> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:57:22 -0500
> > From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
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> > you're welcome. I certainly appreciate it.
> >
> > I am curious which online dictionaries people use, and which thesauri
> > [plural for thesaurus].
> > jc
> >
> > At 05:51 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
> > >Jim, This is excellent! Thanks for sharing. Donna
> > >
> > >Read Donna's articles on
> > >Suite 101:
> > >www.suite101.com/profile.cfm/donna_hill
> > >American Chronicle:
> > >www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3885
> > >
> > >Connect with Donna on
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> > >
> > >Hear clips from "The Last Straw" at:
> > >cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill
> > >Apple I-Tunes
> > >phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=259244374
> > >
> > >Check out the "Sound in Sight" CD project Donna is Head of Media
> > >Relations for the nonprofit Performing Arts Division of the National
> > >Federation of the Blind:
> > >www.padnfb.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR wrote:
> > >>I've subscribed to the "a phrase a week" newsletter for some time
> > >>now. don't think have shared it here. below you'll see yesterday's.
> > >>jc
> > >>From: A Phrase A Week <apaw at phrasefinder.co.uk>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>In the nick of time
> > >>
> > >>Meaning
> > >>
> > >>Just in time; at the precise moment.
> > >>
> > >>Origin
> > >>
> > >>The English language gives us the opportunity to be 'in' many
> > >>things -
> > >><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-doldrums.html>the
> > >>doldrums,
> > >><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-offing.html>the offing,
> > >><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-pink.html>the pink; we
> > >>can even be
> > >><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/down-in-the-dumps.html>down in
> > >>the dumps. With all of these expressions it is pretty easy to see
> > >>what they refer to, but what or where is the 'nick of time'? It may
> > >>not be immediately obvious what the nick of time is, but we do know
> > >>what it means to be in it, i.e. arriving at the last propitious
> > >>moment. Prior to the 16th century there was another expression used
> > >>to convey that meaning - 'pudding time'. This relates to the fact
> > >>that pudding was the dish served first at mediaeval mealtimes. To
> > >>arrive at pudding time was to arrive at the start of the meal, just
> > >>in time to eat. Pudding was then a savoury dish - a form of sausage
> > >>or haggis (see also
> > >><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html>the
> > >>proof is in the pudding). Pudding time is first referred to in
> > >>print in John Heywood's invaluable glossary A dialogue conteinyng
> > >>the nomber in effect of all the prouerbes in the Englishe tongue, 1546:
> > >>
> > >>This geare comth euen in puddyng time ryghtly.
> > >>
> > >>In the nick of
> > >>time
> > >>That seems a perfectly serviceable idiom, so why did the Tudors
> > >>change it to 'the nick of time'? The motivation appears to be the
> > >>desire to express a finer degree of timing than the vague 'around
> > >>the beginning of the meal'. The nick that was being referred to was
> > >>a notch or small cut and was synonymous with precision. Such
> > >>notches were used on 'tally' sticks to measure or keep score.
> > >>
> > >>Note: the expressions 'keeping score' and 'keeping tally' derive
> > >>from this and so do 'stocks' and 'shares', which refer to the
> > >>splitting of such sticks (stocks) along their length and sharing
> > >>the two matching halves as a record of a deal.
> > >>
> > >>If someone is now said to be 'in the nick' the English would expect
> > >>him to be found in prison, the Scots would picture him in the
> > >>valley between two hills and Australians would imagine him to be
> > >>naked. To Shakespeare and his contemporaries if someone were 'in
> > >>(or at, or upon) the (very) nick' they were in the precise place at
> > >>the precise time. Watches and the strings of musical instruments
> > >>were adjusted to precise pre-marked nicks to keep them in proper
> > >>order. Ben Jonson makes a reference to that in the play Pans
> > >>Anniversary, circa 1637:
> > >>
> > >>For to these, there is annexed a clock-keeper, a grave person, as
> > >>Time himself, who is to see that they all keep time to a nick.
> > >>
> > >>Arthur Golding gave what is likely to be the first example of the
> > >>use of 'nick' in this context in his translation of Ovid's 
> Metamorphosis, 1565:
> > >>
> > >>Another thing cleane overthwart there commeth in the nicke:
> > >>The Ladie Semell great with childe by Jove as then was quicke.
> > >>
> > >>The 'time' in 'the nick of time' is rather superfluous, as nick
> > >>itself refers to time. The first example of the use of the phrase
> > >>as we now know it comes in Arthur Day's Festivals, 1615:
> > >>
> > >>Even in this nicke of time, this very, very instant.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>- The PhraseFinder site's new and updated content is notified on
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> > Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:03:29 -0500
> > From: BDM <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
> > To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [stylist] useful resource
> > Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20100618065722.0287be68 at www.braddunsemusic.com>
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> > James,
> >
> > Thanks for the resource. It'll come in handy for songwriting as 
> well :). On
> > my web page I have a listing of songwriting resources, on there, there are
> > some writing reference tools theasauruses, dictionaries, etc. Go to:
> >
> > http://www.braddunsemusic.com/links.html
> >
> > There might be something of use. If you have any others please let me know
> > and I'll add them to my list like I've done the phrase one you just sent.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > At 11:57 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
> > >you're welcome. I certainly appreciate it.
> > >
> > >I am curious which online dictionaries people use, and which thesauri
> > >[plural for thesaurus].
> > >jc
> > >
> > >At 05:51 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
> > >>Jim, This is excellent! Thanks for sharing. Donna
> > >>
> > >>Read Donna's articles on
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR wrote:
> > >>>I've subscribed to the "a phrase a week" newsletter for some time
> > >>>now. don't think have shared it here. below you'll see yesterday's.
> > >>>jc
> > >>>From: A Phrase A Week <apaw at phrasefinder.co.uk>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>In the nick of time
> > >>>
> > >>>Meaning
> > >>>
> > >>>Just in time; at the precise moment.
> > >>>
> > >>>Origin
> > >>>
> > >>>The English language gives us the opportunity to be 'in' many things -
> > >>><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-doldrums.html>the doldrums,
> > >>><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-offing.html>the offing,
> > >>><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/in-the-pink.html>the pink; we can
> > >>>even be <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/down-in-the-dumps.html>down
> > >>>in the dumps. With all of these expressions it is pretty easy to see
> > >>>what they refer to, but what or where is the 'nick of time'? It may not
> > >>>be immediately obvious what the nick of time is, but we do know what it
> > >>>means to be in it, i.e. arriving at the last propitious 
> moment. Prior to
> > >>>the 16th century there was another expression used to convey that
> > >>>meaning - 'pudding time'. This relates to the fact that pudding was the
> > >>>dish served first at mediaeval mealtimes. To arrive at pudding time was
> > >>>to arrive at the start of the meal, just in time to eat. Pudding was
> > >>>then a savoury dish - a form of sausage or haggis (see also
> > >>><http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html>the proof
> > >>>is in the pudding). Pudding time is first referred to in print in John
> > >>>Heywood's invaluable glossary A dialogue conteinyng the nomber 
> in effect
> > >>>of all the prouerbes in the Englishe tongue, 1546:
> > >>>
> > >>>This geare comth euen in puddyng time ryghtly.
> > >>>
> > >>>In the nick of
> > >>>time
> > >>>That seems a perfectly serviceable idiom, so why did the Tudors change
> > >>>it to 'the nick of time'? The motivation appears to be the desire to
> > >>>express a finer degree of timing than the vague 'around the 
> beginning of
> > >>>the meal'. The nick that was being referred to was a notch or small cut
> > >>>and was synonymous with precision. Such notches were used on 'tally'
> > >>>sticks to measure or keep score.
> > >>>
> > >>>Note: the expressions 'keeping score' and 'keeping tally' derive from
> > >>>this and so do 'stocks' and 'shares', which refer to the splitting of
> > >>>such sticks (stocks) along their length and sharing the two matching
> > >>>halves as a record of a deal.
> > >>>
> > >>>If someone is now said to be 'in the nick' the English would expect him
> > >>>to be found in prison, the Scots would picture him in the 
> valley between
> > >>>two hills and Australians would imagine him to be naked. To Shakespeare
> > >>>and his contemporaries if someone were 'in (or at, or upon) the (very)
> > >>>nick' they were in the precise place at the precise time. Watches and
> > >>>the strings of musical instruments were adjusted to precise pre-marked
> > >>>nicks to keep them in proper order. Ben Jonson makes a 
> reference to that
> > >>>in the play Pans Anniversary, circa 1637:
> > >>>
> > >>>For to these, there is annexed a clock-keeper, a grave person, as Time
> > >>>himself, who is to see that they all keep time to a nick.
> > >>>
> > >>>Arthur Golding gave what is likely to be the first example of 
> the use of
> > >>>'nick' in this context in his translation of Ovid's Metamorphosis, 1565:
> > >>>
> > >>>Another thing cleane overthwart there commeth in the nicke:
> > >>>The Ladie Semell great with childe by Jove as then was quicke.
> > >>>
> > >>>The 'time' in 'the nick of time' is rather superfluous, as nick itself
> > >>>refers to time. The first example of the use of the phrase as we now
> > >>>know it comes in Arthur Day's Festivals, 1615:
> > >>>
> > >>>Even in this nicke of time, this very, very instant.
> > >>>
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