[stylist] William the Conqueror; some thoughts to ponder

Tue Nov 13 14:18:17 UTC 2012

Well, I am not admiring anything about his reign
Per cie, merely the abstract symbol of decisiveness.  It was a different
time in history which for a wholehost of reasons we would not with to
emulate fully.  

I have observed in my own life at times that I can fall into the trap of
tentativeness.  

You raise a fair point that the full history may require further inquiry on
my part.  

Bill Outman 

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] William the Conqueror; some thoughts to ponder

Bill, I hate to say this as I am not an editor or critic, but William the
Conqueror, otherwise known as William the Bastard, was from the early Norman
period. The Plantagenets came about 400 years later In the late 14th century
with the reign of Henry IV. I do like your use of analogy though I would
never want to be associated with such a person, that is neither here nor
there. You admire him for his invasions and slaughters of innocent people
and that is your right. I would suggest doing a little more reading on the
history though to get your timeline correct. Diolch, Cymru Rhydd. Eve

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Aine Kelly-Costello
<ainekc at orcon.net.nz>wrote:

> I like the thematic matter, good work.  To be an editor, and point out 
> the things that  jumped out at me:
> "odacious" is actually spelled "audacious".
> I wouldn't use the "I've" contraction in "I've desired after a 
> fashion", there is a bit of a jump in formality levels there.  And at 
> the start of that paragraph where you talk about yourself, maybe 
> introduce it with some sort of connecting phrase, like "on a personal
level".  I'd change "though"
> to "although" there and put a comma after "Bill".  Also, the double 
> use of "desired" in that paragraph, there and in the following 
> sentence, doesn't read that well for me, I'd change one to something 
> else.  I'm not really sure what "desired after a fashion" actually 
> means to be honest.  Also - at the very top, I have no idea what 
> Plantaginate means (and I'm guessing I'm not the only one), so perhaps 
> you could clarify that? Just some thoughts ...  obviously you're the 
> writer
>
> Cool though :) our headmistress (who is also a history teacher) at 
> school is great at doing that, taking a historic example of someone 
> important and showing us how it can apply to our every-day lives
>
>
> Aine
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Outman" <woutman at earthlink.net
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org Date sent: 
> Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:33:58 -0500
> Subject: [stylist] William the Conqueror; some thoughts to ponder
>
> Good afternoon, folks.
>
>
>
> This may sound like it runs a bit counter to what we have been 
> discussing the last couple days concerning gratitude, but it's worth
thinking about.
>
>
>
> It came up earlier today when I was discussing division business with 
> Robert off list.  I had it partially written several months ago, but I 
> have enough now to present for your consideration.
>
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>
> Here it is below.
>
>
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> William the Conqueror
>
>
>
> William I of England, the first of the Plantaginate kings, 
> accomplished in
> 1066 at the Battle of Hastings the rare feat of a successful military 
> campaign across the English Channel.  He thus acquired the English 
> throne, having set out from the Normandy region of France.  This 
> earned him the nickname William the Conqueror.
>
>
>
> The name William originates from the German Wilhelm, meaning resolute 
> protector.  Resolute in intent he certainly was.  It can rightly be 
> said that his act of conquest was odacious.
>
>
>
> Though I am known by Bill my given name is actually William, and I've 
> desired after a fashion to be another William the Conqueror.  I have 
> desired not to be just William the Acceptor.
>
>
>
> If William the Acceptor had existed, he would have been utterly 
> content to accept his lot in life as pre-ordained and immutable.  He 
> would have accepted a status quo existence, thus remaining a complete 
> unknown.  This is why we have never heard of him.
>
>
>
> We may accept our need to cope with lack of vision, but if we do not 
> have some of the spirit of a conqueror, we will not reach our full 
> potential and experience the full amount of joy that might be possible.
>
>
>
> Bill Outman
>
>
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