[stylist] My thoughts- Kuell article in Monitor

Sat Apr 6 00:20:27 UTC 2013

So, I would like to know aboout these rant magazines. Both Bridget and I
are known for our passionate rants and I am guessing we would both like to
learn more about this new source. See? Everything pertains. Besides, I also
notice that those who want to censor are the ones who disagree with the
message. Well, I guess it makes sense. Why would you not want to promote
your beliefs? No book burning here whether I agree or not. As a witch, I do
not like burning of any kind. haha Eve

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Lynda Lambert <llambert at zoominternet.net>wrote:

> I fully agree with you both. Writing is about whatever you have decided to
> write about - a rant or venting, is a genre of writing. You can find rant
> literary magazines and submit articles to them for publication. It is a
> legitimate literary form. We teach it in college writing programs! One of
> my very dear friends is Professor of Linguistics, and he writes the most
> fantastic rants. It is OK.
>
> And, just before I read this, I had responded to Jacqueline's note to me -
> and I was VENTING about how I do not like being blind. That is my point of
> view at this moment, and that is what I wrote about. A little mini-rant.
>  It was in response to Jackie's poem - and it was my own personal response
> to thoughts she had in the poem. they are MY thoughts. After we read
> something, we do have thoughts, don't we? Writing about our thoughts in
> reflection on what other's are saying is a good thing.
>
> It might not be popular, but it is honest and from our individual
> perspective.  As a friend once told me, "We are not two peas in a pod."
>
>
> Lynda
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] My thoughts- Kuell article in Monitor
>
>
>  Bridget, As a paper explaining your views on a particular political
>> problem
>> that repeatedly comes up and stalls any progress in the group affected;
>> you
>> were well written. We need to grow as writers and the only way to do so is
>> to keep writing. I also find that sharing is a great tool. One type of
>> writing tha is always difficult for most people is the venting. Venting is
>> healthy and helps get things rectified. When venting is done in written
>> form, it reaches more people and is more affective. If you can not share
>> what you write, even venting or ranting, with a writers group then you
>> likely could not share it anywhere and no progress will ever be made. I
>> thought your post was well written without too much emotion tripping you
>> up. That is always the big danger for me. It should not matter if everyone
>> agrees or not. It is just, whether or not something was well written and
>> could be judged in that manner. Also, we are also a group that has its own
>> politics with officers and board members. We need to improve as best we
>> could and learn from issues in other groups. I am not going to censor you.
>> In fact, I applaud you for addressing a subject that seems taboo to so
>> many. Politics is like religion; people are scared to talk about it. I do,
>> however, notice religious references that are made on this list serve
>> quite
>> often and no one says anything about it. Must be acceptable. Keep writing
>> and being passionate. Eve
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:44 PM, justin williams
>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>**wrote:
>>
>> True.  It happens.  It's kind of like if you don't walk the straight and
>>> narrow, you don't get heard.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces@**nfbnet.org<stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On Behalf Of Bridgit
>>> Pollpeter
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:07 PM
>>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [stylist] My thoughts- Kuell article in Monitor
>>>
>>> I hear all the time the motto, "Federation family and friends," but in
>>> my experience, it's more like exclusive family and certain friends who
>>> will play our game and follow our agenda. Anyone willing to speak up, to
>>> voice opinions and concerns, to actually think outside the box, is
>>> placed at arms length on the sidelines. Politics is a bitch, and I've
>>> seen a lot of bitchiness.
>>>
>>> I wish I could be more positive about this stuff like you, Robert, but
>>> take Chris's situation for example. He didn't even go outside the
>>> Federation, but he merely voiced concerns with a board he sat on, and
>>> he's been kicked off a listserve and has had to resign two positions he
>>> held. When he had a different view, he was shut up.
>>>
>>> I've seen this happen in a lot of groups and organizations I've been
>>> involved in, but I've seen some of the worse practices of this nature
>>> right in our own happy little Federation organization. It really sucks
>>> because it gets in the way of truly helping affect any change.
>>>
>>> I see so many strong, competent leaders leave or take 10 steps back from
>>> the organization because when they questioned something or held a
>>> different view, they were met with similar situations like Chris. I've
>>> experienced it myself, and my own affiliate keeps me at arms length,
>>> rarely using me for things I could actually be good at. During my first
>>> national convention, while speaking with an affiliate president, they
>>> divulged that they had been given a stern talking too because they voted
>>> against the nominating committee's choice for a national board member.
>>> Apparently we aren't allowed to think differently.
>>>
>>> So where's the camaraderie? Why can't we hold different opinions? No one
>>> in these cases is trying to change the Federation or lessen the cause,
>>> yet they are censured nonetheless.
>>>
>>> Okay, sorry for my rant. I just wish things were as amicable as you
>>> state, Robert.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>> Message: 14
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 07:10:01 -0500
>>> From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
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>>> Subject: [stylist] My thoughts RE:  Kuell article in Monitor
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>>> I too think and appreciate a person who will speak their mind --- then
>>> hang
>>> in there and work it out. That means that both parties do not
>>> preemptively
>>> band the other guy. In a family, as we often within the Federation tout
>>> that
>>> we are --- Yaa, putting up with some behavior is unpleasant, difficult
>>> at
>>> times to sort out, and to even make some changes on one or both sides.
>>> But
>>> hey, reality is, in a large family, there can be small factions that may
>>> can
>>> be at times more fractious then the larger whole.
>>>
>>> (Gee Chris, we are going to miss your editing of that fine affiliate
>>> newsletter! And as for Tom using your article and not asking-thanking
>>> --- on
>>> the editors list we have discussed that in the past --- it has "always
>>> been
>>> that we borrow from one another --- I've said, good but let a guy know,
>>> it's
>>> a good feel to be appreciated by use of our stuff!)
>>>
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