[stylist] history and religion

Sat May 11 04:13:28 UTC 2013

Oh yes. That sounds wonderful. I was one of those freaks watching the
trial on a daily basis. ;) Thank you also for the Wikipedia. I take a
poetry class on Monday. Will bring these up for further discussion by
group. I think I could get into these. Eve

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Jacqueline Williams
<jackieleepoet at cox.net> wrote:
> Eve,
> Bridgit sent you correct information about the book on which following
> "Spoon River" poetry evolved into more widespread use.
> I am glad you like the poem. I have copied and will paste a bit more history
> of the "Spoon River." This one does not mention that it is free verse with
> no necessity for rhyme or meter, though I have done them both ways. If you
> like to write monologues, or soliloquies, it would be natural to try one.
> Just make sure your person is speaking from the grave, and not still living.
> I will send you another, at your request,  published, about "Sweet Justice,"
> whom I considered as speaking from the grave after the O.J. trial.
> Good luck.
> Jackie
>
> Spoon River poetry from Wickopedia. Each following poem is an epitaph of a
> dead citizen, delivered by the dead themselves. They speak about the sorts
> of things one might expect: some recite their histories and turning points,
> others make observations of life from the outside, and petty ones complain
> of the treatment of their graves, while few tell how they really died.
> Speaking without reason to lie or fear the consequences, they construct a
> picture of life in their town that is shorn of façades. The interplay of
> various villagers — e.g. a bright and successful man crediting his parents
> for all he's accomplished, and an old woman weeping because he is secretly
> her illegitimate child — forms a gripping, if not pretty, whole.
> The subject of afterlife receives only the occasional brief mention, and
> even those seem to be contradictory.
> The work features such characters as Tom Merritt, Amos Sibley, Carl Hamblin,
> Fiddler Jones and A.D. Blood. Many of the characters that make appearances
> in Spoon River Anthology were based on real people that Masters knew or
> heard of in the two towns in which he grew up, Petersburg and Lewistown,
> Illinois. Most notable is Ann Rutledge, regarded in local legend to be
> Abraham Lincoln's early love interest though there is no actual proof of
> such a relationship. Rutledge's grave can still be found in a Petersburg
> cemetery, and a tour of graveyards in both towns reveals most of the
> surnames that Masters applied to his characters.
> Other local legends assert that Masters' fictional portrayal of local
> residents, often in unflattering light, created a lot of embarrassment and
> aggravation in his hometown. This is offered as an explanation for why he
> chose not to settle down in Lewistown or Petersburg.
> Spoon River Anthology is often used in second year characterization work in
> the Meisner technique
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:14 PM
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>
> That was really beautiful. I have never heard of this method, Spoon
> River. I think I would loke to learn more about it. Do your spaces and
> breaks have significance? It seems to be a visual form of poetry along
> with the music to the heart. Thank you so much for sharing this and we
> will not tell anyone. Good luck on your contest. Eve
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jacqueline Williams
> <jackieleepoet at cox.net> wrote:
>> Bridgit,
>> I am fascinated by your perspective, so like my own. I was fortunate to
> take
>> a Religions of the World in college, and have added a few since then that
>> were not addressed, such as Bahai.
>> Also, I read several books on Anne Bolyn, and just this year wrote a
> "Spoon
>> River" poem about her. That is a form that is "a voice from the dead."
>> I am attaching it. I have submitted to Florida, the NFSPS annual contest,
> so
>> I am unsure that I should send it to you. However, perhaps your heredity
>> takes precedence!
>> Jackie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit
>> Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:21 PM
>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [stylist] history and religion
>>
>> Eve,
>>
>> What you say is true about Celtic not necessarily pertaining to pagan.
>> Though past Celtic traditions are deeply rooted to its religious
>> aspects, so it can be synonymous. I'm interested in a variety of
>> subjects, history and religion being towards the top. I prefer to learn
>> about religions from the perspective of a given religion as opposed to
>> another religion's view of a different perspective. I'm fascinated by
>> these subjects and the power and struggles religion has played a part of
>> in world history.
>>
>> I minored in history at university, my emphasis being medieval and
>> Renaissance history. I've always felt compelled to know about the past
>> and be somehow connected to that past. My husband and I are very into
>> family trees right now, and we recently discovered that I may be related
>> to Anne Boleyn, Henry VIII's second wife who was beheaded. I've always
>> been fascinated by this character and felt more drawn to her than other
>> of Henry's wives. So that I may be a descendent of hers somehow is
>> exciting beyond words to me. Yes, I'm a history nerd, grin.
>>
>> I think the world, and God, are bigger than anyone can comprehend. I
>> choose to not place either in a box and try to keep an open mind. I'm
>> fascinated by learning in general and finding a connection to the past.
>> I've attempted going back to university to study religion, but my life
>> doesn't currently afford me this opportunity at this point in time.
>>
>> Bridgit
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 17:23:34 -0700
>> From: Eve Sanchez <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Harry Potter and Celtic tradition
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>> hahaha   "Bless you." for sneezing that is. haha   No seriously, I do
>> not want to say anything that will offend anyone as I so easily could,
>> but I totally commend you for your understanding and open mindedness. As
>> for the Celtic ref; I am not most people. Celtic tradition is Pagan, but
>> Pagan is not necessarily Celtic. That was my point and how I look at
>> things in life. I know of people who follow the Norse traditions and
>> though I respect their rights, I do not at all agree with any of the
>> teachings what so ever. Yes there are similarities in Deity, but that is
>> about it. It is just not something that I could back. I am just saying
>> this as an example as to why I say Pagan rather than Celtic unless you
>> are speaking specifically of the Celtic histories and/or traditions.
>> But, still, the main thing you should take from this is that I love your
>> willingness to learn the controversial histories that many Christians
>> overlook or deny. Kudos. Eve
>>
>>
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