[stylist] Sweet Justice for poets,RE: history and religion

Sun May 19 21:02:44 UTC 2013

Eve,
Sorry for the delay sending this Spoon River poem. My Outlook acted up and I
could not send anything. Could only hear the e-mail names.
"Sweet Justice" was written after my experience with domestic violence, and
I was moving through the court system at the same time the O.J. trial was
going on. I knew the outcome well before the verdict . I never even got to
trial. But it inspired this poem which several people have not understood.
It traces our system from England, the Supreme Court, and refers to our
symbol of justice holding the scales in her hands. You may not need the
explanation, but perhaps some will.
It was published in the Sandcutters Quarterly in the year of the trial.
Did your poetry group address the Spoon River poetry?
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:13 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] history and religion

Oh yes. That sounds wonderful. I was one of those freaks watching the
trial on a daily basis. ;) Thank you also for the Wikipedia. I take a
poetry class on Monday. Will bring these up for further discussion by
group. I think I could get into these. Eve

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Jacqueline Williams
<jackieleepoet at cox.net> wrote:
> Eve,
> Bridgit sent you correct information about the book on which following
> "Spoon River" poetry evolved into more widespread use.
> I am glad you like the poem. I have copied and will paste a bit more
history
> of the "Spoon River." This one does not mention that it is free verse with
> no necessity for rhyme or meter, though I have done them both ways. If you
> like to write monologues, or soliloquies, it would be natural to try one.
> Just make sure your person is speaking from the grave, and not still
living.
> I will send you another, at your request,  published, about "Sweet
Justice,"
> whom I considered as speaking from the grave after the O.J. trial.
> Good luck.
> Jackie
>
> Spoon River poetry from Wickopedia. Each following poem is an epitaph of a
> dead citizen, delivered by the dead themselves. They speak about the sorts
> of things one might expect: some recite their histories and turning
points,
> others make observations of life from the outside, and petty ones complain
> of the treatment of their graves, while few tell how they really died.
> Speaking without reason to lie or fear the consequences, they construct a
> picture of life in their town that is shorn of façades. The interplay of
> various villagers — e.g. a bright and successful man crediting his parents
> for all he's accomplished, and an old woman weeping because he is secretly
> her illegitimate child — forms a gripping, if not pretty, whole.
> The subject of afterlife receives only the occasional brief mention, and
> even those seem to be contradictory.
> The work features such characters as Tom Merritt, Amos Sibley, Carl
Hamblin,
> Fiddler Jones and A.D. Blood. Many of the characters that make appearances
> in Spoon River Anthology were based on real people that Masters knew or
> heard of in the two towns in which he grew up, Petersburg and Lewistown,
> Illinois. Most notable is Ann Rutledge, regarded in local legend to be
> Abraham Lincoln's early love interest though there is no actual proof of
> such a relationship. Rutledge's grave can still be found in a Petersburg
> cemetery, and a tour of graveyards in both towns reveals most of the
> surnames that Masters applied to his characters.
> Other local legends assert that Masters' fictional portrayal of local
> residents, often in unflattering light, created a lot of embarrassment and
> aggravation in his hometown. This is offered as an explanation for why he
> chose not to settle down in Lewistown or Petersburg.
> Spoon River Anthology is often used in second year characterization work
in
> the Meisner technique
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:14 PM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] history and religion
>
> That was really beautiful. I have never heard of this method, Spoon
> River. I think I would loke to learn more about it. Do your spaces and
> breaks have significance? It seems to be a visual form of poetry along
> with the music to the heart. Thank you so much for sharing this and we
> will not tell anyone. Good luck on your contest. Eve
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jacqueline Williams
> <jackieleepoet at cox.net> wrote:
>> Bridgit,
>> I am fascinated by your perspective, so like my own. I was fortunate to
> take
>> a Religions of the World in college, and have added a few since then that
>> were not addressed, such as Bahai.
>> Also, I read several books on Anne Bolyn, and just this year wrote a
> "Spoon
>> River" poem about her. That is a form that is "a voice from the dead."
>> I am attaching it. I have submitted to Florida, the NFSPS annual contest,
> so
>> I am unsure that I should send it to you. However, perhaps your heredity
>> takes precedence!
>> Jackie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit
>> Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:21 PM
>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [stylist] history and religion
>>
>> Eve,
>>
>> What you say is true about Celtic not necessarily pertaining to pagan.
>> Though past Celtic traditions are deeply rooted to its religious
>> aspects, so it can be synonymous. I'm interested in a variety of
>> subjects, history and religion being towards the top. I prefer to learn
>> about religions from the perspective of a given religion as opposed to
>> another religion's view of a different perspective. I'm fascinated by
>> these subjects and the power and struggles religion has played a part of
>> in world history.
>>
>> I minored in history at university, my emphasis being medieval and
>> Renaissance history. I've always felt compelled to know about the past
>> and be somehow connected to that past. My husband and I are very into
>> family trees right now, and we recently discovered that I may be related
>> to Anne Boleyn, Henry VIII's second wife who was beheaded. I've always
>> been fascinated by this character and felt more drawn to her than other
>> of Henry's wives. So that I may be a descendent of hers somehow is
>> exciting beyond words to me. Yes, I'm a history nerd, grin.
>>
>> I think the world, and God, are bigger than anyone can comprehend. I
>> choose to not place either in a box and try to keep an open mind. I'm
>> fascinated by learning in general and finding a connection to the past.
>> I've attempted going back to university to study religion, but my life
>> doesn't currently afford me this opportunity at this point in time.
>>
>> Bridgit
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 17:23:34 -0700
>> From: Eve Sanchez <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Harry Potter and Celtic tradition
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>> hahaha   "Bless you." for sneezing that is. haha   No seriously, I do
>> not want to say anything that will offend anyone as I so easily could,
>> but I totally commend you for your understanding and open mindedness. As
>> for the Celtic ref; I am not most people. Celtic tradition is Pagan, but
>> Pagan is not necessarily Celtic. That was my point and how I look at
>> things in life. I know of people who follow the Norse traditions and
>> though I respect their rights, I do not at all agree with any of the
>> teachings what so ever. Yes there are similarities in Deity, but that is
>> about it. It is just not something that I could back. I am just saying
>> this as an example as to why I say Pagan rather than Celtic unless you
>> are speaking specifically of the Celtic histories and/or traditions.
>> But, still, the main thing you should take from this is that I love your
>> willingness to learn the controversial histories that many Christians
>> overlook or deny. Kudos. Eve
>>
>>
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