[stylist] A triolet--Space Lyrical

Mon Feb 16 19:52:38 UTC 2015

Yes, in my poetry classes, we read a few poems dating past the last 50
years, but for the most part, we read current poets, like from the last 10
years or so.

BTW, any poet from the 20's and on, is considered either modern or
post-modern; it's just the type of forms that go in and out of fashion. And
of course, in the 50's, with the Beats and rise of existentialism, more
modern forms evolved and became popular. But there were still, and are,
poets working within traditional structures but infusing with current
topics.

The point of post-modern writing has been to challenge the status quo, to
disrupt commercial thinking, as it were, and feel free to creative as you
see fit. Sometimes this is pure bullshit, but a lot of the time, I think
it's cool. I like playing with structure and experimenting with style and
voice. Whilst we should continue to revere and use traditional forms, I also
think there is a place for post-modern poetry.

Bridgit

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I went to college in the early to mid 70s so Robert Frost and the like were
still the 'thing'.  My one English professor hated free verse but did
encourage us to pursue it if that is where the words took us. It's
interesting how the creative world evolves. 

Myrna

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Barbara HAMMEL via stylist
<stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I know my one poetry class in the late eighties college scene is no
comparison to the "real world" but my professor of that class HATED rhyming
poems. It was an interpretting poetry class which I never made heads or
tails of but somehow survived it. In our book of poems we worked on if there
were more than the two Robert Frost poems that rhymed, there weren't many
others.
> Barbara
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:07, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist
<stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Jackie,
>> 
>> In my creative writing classes, I knew poets, and, for the most part, 
>> we are talking about people between the ages of 18 and 30, who are 
>> writing various forms of poetry, not just free verse. Grant it, my 
>> program was a very small one, classes not consisting of more than 25 
>> people, so it might not reflect what is happening on a wider scale, 
>> but at least in my experience, free verse is by far not the only 
>> poetical format being worked with. And poetry instructors taught all 
>> forms of poetry and stressed the importance of all forms.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
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>> Williams via stylist
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>> To: myrnaspoetry at yahoo.com; 'Writers' Division Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] A triolet--Space Lyrical
>> 
>> Myrna,
>> Just a note to say I appreciate all of your comments on poetic forms. 
>> It is educational for all of our writers who otherwise might be 
>> wondered about unless it is understood that there are often very 
>> strict rules and parameters as to what they write. Those who do not 
>> like the restrictions prefer free verse.  For publication these days, 
>> it seems that free verse is the preferred mode, but every state 
>> contest has many categories for format and metered poems.
>> 
>> Jackie
>> 
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>> myrnaspoetry--- via stylist
>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:23 AM
>> To: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter; Writers' Division Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] A triolet--Space Lyrical
>> 
>> Bridget, the triolet is an eight line poem. However I'm sure that 
>> multiple eight lined stanzas have been done before.  But 
>> traditionally it is but one stanza of eight lines following the specific
rhyme and repetition scheme.
>> 
>> Myrna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 9:07 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist
>>> <stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Barbara,
>>> 
>>> I can see what you're saying. Didn't think of it before, but 
>>> something
>> worth
>>> commenting on and considering, now that you point it out.
>>> 
>>> Does this particular format only allow for so many stanzas?
>>> 
>>> Bridgit
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Barbara Hammel via stylist
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:49 PM
>>> To: Jacobson, Shawn D; Writers' Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] A triolet--Space Lyrical
>>> 
>>> The only thing I don't like about this little poem is that, to me, 
>>> it doesn't seem complete.  It feels like there should be a second 
>>> stanza, if you will.
>>> Barbara
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.--Robert 
>>> Frost -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jacobson, Shawn D via stylist
>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:07 PM
>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List (stylist at nfbnet.org)'
>>> Subject: [stylist] A triolet--Space Lyrical
>>> 
>>> Dear list.
>>> 
>>> Below is a little triolet I wrote; it's about how science fiction 
>>> has
>> gotten
>>> darker over the years as it takes itself more seriously.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> 
>>> Space Lyrical
>>> by Shawn Jacobson
>>> 
>>> I miss the way the future used to be before tomorrow grew too hot to 
>>> stand.
>>> We'd travel all across the galaxy.
>>> I miss the way the future used to be.
>>> The universe would all be ours to see; the very stars would leap at 
>>> our command.
>>> I miss the way the future used to be before tomorrow grew too hot to 
>>> stand.
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