[Trainer-Talk] Accessing sharepoint links with JAWS

Fri Apr 14 13:16:34 UTC 2017

I will let everyone know when it is ready--

*Dr Denise M Robinson*
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On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Nancy Coffman via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Thank you Denice. That will be useful for a lot of us.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:24 AM, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Deborah,
> >
> > 365 is very accessible with Jaws and as you pointed out it is a matter of
> > knowing what commands to use in order for it to get it to do what you
> > want.  I will try to do up a video to show you the steps to access this.
> > Thanks for sharing the exact link to what you are having difficulties
> with
> > as I will use this as an example.
> >
> > This will be an audio/visual file so anyone will be able to see the
> issues
> > you describe. Give me some days to do it all.
> >
> > *Dr Denise M Robinson*
> > Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> > CEO, TechVision, LLC
> > Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
> > instruction for schools
> > Also Private training to your needs
> > 423-573-6413
> >
> > Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
> > products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
> > keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Deborah Armstrong via Trainer-Talk <
> > trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >>                The recent newsletter sent out by Freedom Scientific
> >> indicated near the end of next month, they'd offer a webinar on Office
> 365,
> >> which I desperately need, as I do continue to struggle with it at work.
> >>
> >> I see it's not in their listing of upcoming webinars yet, but that's
> >> probably because marketing got a little ahead of reality.
> >>
> >> One problem most of my BVI students really struggle with is accessing
> the
> >> sharepoint links I send them. I produce alternate media for a community
> >> college. The sad thing here is that my LD students don't have any
> trouble
> >> with sharepoint links; it's the JAWS users who are really struggling.
> Even
> >> I an experienced blind user of several screen readers find the
> experience
> >> inconsistent.
> >>
> >> For example this link:
> >>                https://foothilldeanza-my.sharepoint.com/personal/
> >> 10270840_fhda_edu/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?folderid=
> >> 15189d7ac2cea4d0da2d7dc538175c828&authkey=ARxTCF4ObRJdv7qNGDkvX8Y
> >>
> >> is a typical guest access link to a folder for a single student with all
> >> his textbooks. Some are in PDF, some in Word, some in Daisy, you get the
> >> idea; it's whatever I've been able to collect for him.
> >>
> >> He needs to open the Daisy in FS reader, the PDF files in Adobe, and the
> >> Word docs in Wordpad or Word, whatever he has on his home, lab  or
> >> classroom PCs. He might be in Windows 7 8 or 10; he might be using
> FireFox,
> >> IE Chrome, or even heaven forbid, Edge!
> >>
> >> Anyway, if you pull up this link  and try to navigate with JAWS it's
> >> fairly challenging. You are     sometimes in virtual cursor mode,
> sometimes
> >> in application mode. Normally you can right-click on a link to download
> a
> >> file, but that too, doesn't work everywhere here. Sometimes if you press
> >> Enter on a file it loads up in an inaccessible view in something called
> >> "Word Online" which apparently is different than Office 365. The
> >> terminology is confusing, SharePoint, One-Drive, Office 365, Office
> online;
> >> someone should do a whole webinar unraveling all of it!
> >>
> >> The reason I don't use Google Drive, DropBox, SugarSync, or any of the
> >> other file sharing services is that our college has standardized on
> >> Sharepoint, and my LD students love it. Also at CSUN, Microsoft spent so
> >> much effort talking about how accessible Office now is, so I keep
> thinking
> >> I'm missing something.
> >>
> >> The files are in a 7-column grid, but most of its columns are not
> relevant
> >> to someone simply trying to access those files. If you tab to the
> actions
> >> menyu you sometimes find it, sometimes tab right in to the tool bar or
> >> address bar. If you find the actions menu you get choices like "share"
> and
> >> "print" but not "download" which is the typical choice most students
> more
> >> frequently need to access their books. And if you tab to actions how can
> >> you be sure you've selected the right file to act on?
> >>
> >> If you wanted to load one of the Daisy books in FS reader, that would
> add
> >> additional challenges. You also have to be sure those PDFS don't load
> up in
> >> the browser, so that's more configuration which may or may not have
> >> happened on a particular student's computer.
> >>
> >> This whole cloud experience is both frustrating for me and my students
> and
> >> what I most need is a clear, unambiguous set of steps I can give them to
> >> access their files when I send them a sharepoint link like the one
> above.
> >>
> >> I hope the upcoming FS webinar will cover this. I have written Dan Clark
> >> asking him to tackle this challenge. Comments from other trainers are
> >> welcome and have fun exploring this sharepoint link with your screen
> reader!
> >>
> >> --Debee
> >> (Deborah Armstrong, De Anza College Alternate Media.)
> >>
> >> *** Feel free to forward this to anyone. ****
> >>
> >>
> >>
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