[Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with VoiceOver

[Scott Davert]

Looks like speech users are now experiening the same issue braille users have been for a few months now. Sighs.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Codex is a straightforward PC program created by a blind gent from the UK.
> The whole process is done on the PC.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Reginald
> George via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:52 PM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Reginald George <adapt at kc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with
> VoiceOver
> 
> Is Codex a pc or IOS program?
> 
> Reg
> "Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible." 
> Albert Einstein
> 
> On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I can definitely replicate this problem, and have reported it to Amazon
> also.
> 
> I have to say, though, that even before this problem arose, my preferred
> method of reading Kindle books, even though it takes a bit longer to
> execute, involves converting the book to EPUB using Codex, then reading it
> in Voice Dream Reader.  This yields a great reading experience.  Codex
> allows for conversion of Kindle books into a variety of file formats for
> reading in a variety of ways.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of David
> Goldfield via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 10:26 AM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David Goldfield <david.goldfield at outlook.com>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with
> VoiceOver
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I am noticing a new issue when reading Kindle books on my iPhone. I sent the
> following report to
> device-accessibility at amazon.com<mailto:device-accessibility at amazon.com> but
> I am reposting it here as I'm wondering if others on this list are able to
> reproduce this issue. If there are trainers on this list who are assisting
> students with the Kindle app on iOS this is an issue that I'm wondering if
> you've seen, even though some users might not notice and some who do notice
> it might not care.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello. I am noticing a new issue regarding the Kindle app on my iPhone 8,
> running iOS 11.4.1 using VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> Description
> 
> In the past, when performing a continuous read with the two-finger swipe
> down gesture the reading flow was always smooth. In other words, VoiceOver
> did not pause at the end of each line of text, but only paused at the end of
> sentences or paragraphs, making the reading flow sound natural. The only
> other pause was when the page needed to be flipped but this was very brief
> and produced a very short earcon.
> 
> Recently, this behavior has changed. Now, VoiceOver pauses after each line
> of text, making the flow of reading sound more unnatural. I have tried
> changing the font and adjusting font size and spacing but altering these
> settings does not resolve the issue.
> 
> Additionally, the earcon when the page flips is a bit different, sounding
> like the earcon you hear when opening an app, which makes the pauses between
> page flips more noticeable and jarring.
> 
> This behavior occurs with all of my books. The one exception is when reading
> a magazine in text view, where the app behaves as expected during reading.
> 
> 
> 
> Steps to Reproduce
> 
> 1. With VoiceOver running, open the Kindle app and ensure that a book is
> currently open. Ensure that the book contains more than one page.
> 
> 2. Swipe down with two fingers to cause VoiceOver to read continuously.
> 
> 3. Allow the reading to continue past the current page so that the page
> flips.
> 
> 
> Expected Results
> 
> When reading continuously VoiceOver should only pause during page flips and
> at the end of a sentence.
> 
> Page flip earcons should be very slight and brief.
> 
> 
> Actual Results
> 
> During continuous reading pauses occur after each line.
> 
> Page flip earcons are longer than in previous versions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
> WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
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