[Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with VoiceOver

Wed Aug 1 20:24:27 UTC 2018

I was actually going to say that this seems to have been fixed in braille. I was reading last night and had a much better experience than before. 

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From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Scott Davert via Trainer-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 3:46 PM
To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Scott Davert <kc8pnl at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with VoiceOver

Looks like speech users are now experiening the same issue braille users have been for a few months now. Sighs.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Codex is a straightforward PC program created by a blind gent from the UK.
> The whole process is done on the PC.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Reginald George via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:52 PM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology 
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Reginald George <adapt at kc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone 
> with VoiceOver
> 
> Is Codex a pc or IOS program?
> 
> Reg
> "Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible." 
> Albert Einstein
> 
> On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk 
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I can definitely replicate this problem, and have reported it to 
> Amazon also.
> 
> I have to say, though, that even before this problem arose, my 
> preferred method of reading Kindle books, even though it takes a bit 
> longer to execute, involves converting the book to EPUB using Codex, 
> then reading it in Voice Dream Reader.  This yields a great reading 
> experience.  Codex allows for conversion of Kindle books into a 
> variety of file formats for reading in a variety of ways.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 10:26 AM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology 
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David Goldfield <david.goldfield at outlook.com>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with 
> VoiceOver
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I am noticing a new issue when reading Kindle books on my iPhone. I 
> sent the following report to 
> device-accessibility at amazon.com<mailto:device-accessibility at amazon.com
> > but I am reposting it here as I'm wondering if others on this list 
> are able to reproduce this issue. If there are trainers on this list 
> who are assisting students with the Kindle app on iOS this is an issue 
> that I'm wondering if you've seen, even though some users might not 
> notice and some who do notice it might not care.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello. I am noticing a new issue regarding the Kindle app on my iPhone 
> 8, running iOS 11.4.1 using VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> Description
> 
> In the past, when performing a continuous read with the two-finger 
> swipe down gesture the reading flow was always smooth. In other words, 
> VoiceOver did not pause at the end of each line of text, but only 
> paused at the end of sentences or paragraphs, making the reading flow 
> sound natural. The only other pause was when the page needed to be 
> flipped but this was very brief and produced a very short earcon.
> 
> Recently, this behavior has changed. Now, VoiceOver pauses after each 
> line of text, making the flow of reading sound more unnatural. I have 
> tried changing the font and adjusting font size and spacing but 
> altering these settings does not resolve the issue.
> 
> Additionally, the earcon when the page flips is a bit different, 
> sounding like the earcon you hear when opening an app, which makes the 
> pauses between page flips more noticeable and jarring.
> 
> This behavior occurs with all of my books. The one exception is when 
> reading a magazine in text view, where the app behaves as expected during reading.
> 
> 
> 
> Steps to Reproduce
> 
> 1. With VoiceOver running, open the Kindle app and ensure that a book 
> is currently open. Ensure that the book contains more than one page.
> 
> 2. Swipe down with two fingers to cause VoiceOver to read continuously.
> 
> 3. Allow the reading to continue past the current page so that the 
> page flips.
> 
> 
> Expected Results
> 
> When reading continuously VoiceOver should only pause during page 
> flips and at the end of a sentence.
> 
> Page flip earcons should be very slight and brief.
> 
> 
> Actual Results
> 
> During continuous reading pauses occur after each line.
> 
> Page flip earcons are longer than in previous versions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist 
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