[Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with VoiceOver

Wed Aug 1 22:13:07 UTC 2018

Codex is excellent and will make any kindle very happy as u place it in
word and read with braille or audio. All my students and I use it constantly

*Dr Denise M Robinson*

*Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*

Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
Impaired
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Greg Aikens via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I was actually going to say that this seems to have been fixed in braille.
> I was reading last night and had a much better experience than before.
>
> Greg Aikens
> Senior Assistive Technology Instructor
> Center for the Visually Impaired
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Scott Davert via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 3:46 PM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Scott Davert <kc8pnl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with
> VoiceOver
>
> Looks like speech users are now experiening the same issue braille users
> have been for a few months now. Sighs.
>
> Scott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 29, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Codex is a straightforward PC program created by a blind gent from the
> UK.
> > The whole process is done on the PC.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> > Reginald George via Trainer-Talk
> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:52 PM
> > To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> > <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Reginald George <adapt at kc.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone
> > with VoiceOver
> >
> > Is Codex a pc or IOS program?
> >
> > Reg
> > "Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible."
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk
> > <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I can definitely replicate this problem, and have reported it to
> > Amazon also.
> >
> > I have to say, though, that even before this problem arose, my
> > preferred method of reading Kindle books, even though it takes a bit
> > longer to execute, involves converting the book to EPUB using Codex,
> > then reading it in Voice Dream Reader.  This yields a great reading
> > experience.  Codex allows for conversion of Kindle books into a
> > variety of file formats for reading in a variety of ways.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> > David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk
> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 10:26 AM
> > To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> > <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: David Goldfield <david.goldfield at outlook.com>
> > Subject: [Trainer-Talk] New Issue Reading Kindle Books On iPhone with
> > VoiceOver
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am noticing a new issue when reading Kindle books on my iPhone. I
> > sent the following report to
> > device-accessibility at amazon.com<mailto:device-accessibility at amazon.com
> > > but I am reposting it here as I'm wondering if others on this list
> > are able to reproduce this issue. If there are trainers on this list
> > who are assisting students with the Kindle app on iOS this is an issue
> > that I'm wondering if you've seen, even though some users might not
> > notice and some who do notice it might not care.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello. I am noticing a new issue regarding the Kindle app on my iPhone
> > 8, running iOS 11.4.1 using VoiceOver.
> >
> >
> > Description
> >
> > In the past, when performing a continuous read with the two-finger
> > swipe down gesture the reading flow was always smooth. In other words,
> > VoiceOver did not pause at the end of each line of text, but only
> > paused at the end of sentences or paragraphs, making the reading flow
> > sound natural. The only other pause was when the page needed to be
> > flipped but this was very brief and produced a very short earcon.
> >
> > Recently, this behavior has changed. Now, VoiceOver pauses after each
> > line of text, making the flow of reading sound more unnatural. I have
> > tried changing the font and adjusting font size and spacing but
> > altering these settings does not resolve the issue.
> >
> > Additionally, the earcon when the page flips is a bit different,
> > sounding like the earcon you hear when opening an app, which makes the
> > pauses between page flips more noticeable and jarring.
> >
> > This behavior occurs with all of my books. The one exception is when
> > reading a magazine in text view, where the app behaves as expected
> during reading.
> >
> >
> >
> > Steps to Reproduce
> >
> > 1. With VoiceOver running, open the Kindle app and ensure that a book
> > is currently open. Ensure that the book contains more than one page.
> >
> > 2. Swipe down with two fingers to cause VoiceOver to read continuously.
> >
> > 3. Allow the reading to continue past the current page so that the
> > page flips.
> >
> >
> > Expected Results
> >
> > When reading continuously VoiceOver should only pause during page
> > flips and at the end of a sentence.
> >
> > Page flip earcons should be very slight and brief.
> >
> >
> > Actual Results
> >
> > During continuous reading pauses occur after each line.
> >
> > Page flip earcons are longer than in previous versions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
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