[Trainer-Talk] Braille display does not show actions on selected item in Voiceover

[Scott Davert]

Hi Ned.
It's a bit of a challenge really. The reason is that if you have "actions available" popping up each time you navigate from one element to the next, for example browsing your inbox with the Mail app, it would become very disruptive. As a speech user, it's much easier to ignore something like this than it is for a braille only user. The reason is that VoiceOver has no idea when you are done reading the current line on your braille display, so it would flash up in the middle of your reading. With speech, VoiceOver can tell when it's done providing speech output, it can inform the user that actions are available without being disruptive. The best way I've found to deal with this, as someone who never uses speech on iOS, is simply to press space with dot 3 or space with dot 6. If I don't see something like "delete" or "reply to post" I know there are no actions available. You can also create a custom command which will announce in speech and display in braille the current setting of the rotor. E.G. actions, characters, words, etc. Unless Apple were to implement some kind of toggle which  would convey this information when enabled. having "actions available" For braille only users, it's my view that displaying each time you navigate to a place where there are actions available would be a hinderance to most braille only users.

Just my perspective,
Scott


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> On Feb 18, 2021, at 11:19 PM, Ned Granic via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> Working with clients who are solely dependent on their Braille displays when
> using i-devices, I ran into a hole in feedback that shouldn't be there due
> to commonality and importance of the task they are trying to complete.
> 
> Namely, swiping up or down allows user to select an Action on the selected
> item before executing it with a double tap.  When using a Braille display to
> do so, however, there is no information displayed showing the chosen action
> even though it's announced audibly on the device.  All Voiceover settings
> are default and different types of Braille displays were tested with the
> same result.
> 
> Also, I am talking about the Custom Actions, not any Rotor options.
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> What are we missing?  A setting on the Apple device/Voiceover/Braille
> display?
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> Thanks so much in advance!
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> 
> Ned
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