[Trainer-Talk] Laptop layout versus desktop layout

Dr Denise M Robinson deniserob at gmail.com
Sun Nov 14 13:06:55 UTC 2021


This is a great conversation. The advantage of changing your layout to laptop and if you have a number pad you now have the power of both sets of commands at your fingertips continuously. Both desktop and laptop commands. Then you can decide which set of commands you want to use based on what you’re doing. The biggest advantage of laptop layout also is the caps lock becomes the insert key which makes those commands even faster and more efficient.



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> On Nov 13, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> When starting somebody out with JAWS, I prefer to emphasize the laptop layout. It allows for most keys from the desktop layout, but for navigation one does not need to remove hands from the home row. The navigation commands follow patterns which help the user to learn them.  
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> Hello Kelsey,
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> As a trainer, I mostly stick to using concepts that are transferable to any screen reader, and to the operating system. In that case, the keyboard layout makes very little difference. Certainly, some screen reader commands are modified, but for navigation and traversal through the OS, browsing, etc., the layout really has negligible impact. It is only really once you start getting to be an intermediate to advanced user that the layout begins to matter. For example, for JAWS and NVDA, the various screen reader modes and cursors have different keyboard commands, and the difference begins to matter a bit there.
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> Just my thoughts on this.
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>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 9:49 AM Kelsey Nicolay via Trainer-Talk < trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> I was curious what you guys think about this. I have always learned to 
>> use JAWS in desktop layout, never really messing with laptop layout 
>> too much because all my laptops have had number pads. However, I have 
>> heardfrom others that knowing laptop layout is important Because you 
>> never know when you might have to use a laptop that does not have a 
>> number fad. I always thought that which keyboard layout to uie is 
>> personal preference, but from a trainer perspective, do you teach both 
>> and let students decide or is one layout better than the other?
>> Sent from Kelsey Nicolay’s iPhone
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