[nfb-talk] critical analysis paper

Wed Dec 22 19:57:38 UTC 2010

Hi Lisa,
While I can't provide articles I can look at your question from personal 
experience. I think that you answer your own question in addressing the 
issue of learning advocacy and the need to compete in the sighted world. 
Schools for the blind provide a need for some students who for whatever 
reason are unable to function in a main stream school environment. I went to 
local special education classes where I learned Braille in the early 1960's 
and spent much of the day main streamed in regular classes. From sixth grade 
on I attended regular neighborhood schools in a suburban school district 
where I was the only blind student. I grew up in a medium sized city where I 
had exposure to studnets attending public school and the state school for 
the blind. There were significant differences in the behavior and 
socialization skills of the students where many of those attending the 
school for the blind while may have been able to excel in certain areas 
stereotypical for blind children of that time were not as socially 
acclimated to functioning in the real world because of the isolation. It is 
interesting to note that states such as Michigan closed their school for the 
blind approximately 20 years ago and I think that Oregon did so within the 
last year or two.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa Kidder" <lisa.akidder at gmail.com>
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> I'm writing about this, beecause I did not learn a lot of the academic 
> skills that I would have learned in a public school.  I was sent to a 
> residental school at age three, and was told that I would never learn 
> math, because I would never understand the concept of numbers.  I did not 
> learn how to multiply or divide until I had to take a bisic math class in 
> college.  I finished the class with an a.  It seems like the school that I 
> went to focused mainly on the independent living skills, but not as much 
> on the academic skills.  I never had to advocate, like I do now in college 
> because all of my textbooks were provided in braille when I was school. 
> As far as taking notes, the teachers told us what to put down.  We did not 
> have to decide what was important.  Lisa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com
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> Date sent: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:31:17 -0800
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>
> Lisa:
>
> The argument or debate you're trying to flesh out is specious and the 
> supposed controversy illusory.  It's not a matter of which school setting 
> is best but rather which is best for a given child at a given time with 
> given educational goals and a given skill set and knowledge base.  This is 
> part of what's negotiated in an IEP.
>
> Mike
>
> sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2010, at 12:23, "Lisa Kidder" <lisa.akidder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That would be helpful and yes, i am looking for articles with facts for 
> both sides of the issue.  meaning both for and against.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "T.  Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
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> Date sent: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 00:29:40 -0800
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] critical analysis paper
>
> While I haven't got any peer reviewed primary sources for you off the
> top of my head, I'm sure you could get a dozen article-length
> treatises on the subject in favor of both positions simply by having
> asked the question here.  *grin*
>
> If it would be of benefit, I likely could produce one tomorrow
> discussing the benefits and consequences of a residential school, but
> generally concluding generally in favor of them.
>
> A pretty significant number of others I'm sure could likewise reach
> the opposite conclusion with similar care and consideration of the
> issue.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:57:07AM -0600, Lisa Kidder wrote:
> I don't know if this is the right list to post this on, and i just
> joined this list.  i'm working on a critical analysis paper for my
> diversity democracy class, and i chose the topic of whether a blind
> student should attend a public or residential school.  does anyone
> know where I can find reputable articles supporting both sides of
> this argument.  Thanks in advance.
>
> Lisa
>
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