[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Tue Jul 5 22:56:26 UTC 2011


More people understanding, that the philosophy of the NFB was the
right one, so they decided to come to the convention, to support it.
I guess, that's what it was.
The NFB is more popular than the other group, because we're right!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/5/11, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
> Wow I didn't realize 5,000 persons went to convention.
> My goodness, that I must say is a crowd.
> I so will always wish that they could come to Denver, I know they have
> been there before.
> Several years for that matter.
> What caused the group to become larger?
>
> Original message:
>> You have to remember that the prime considerations in choosing a
>> location/hotel are rates and size.  If the rates are to high, people
>> can't/won't come.  And ... we need a large convention-style hotel
>> that can hold from 3000 to 4000 persons.  I am sure Colorado Springs
>> doesn't have that, and Denver may not.
>
>> Dave
>
>> At 04:47 PM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>> I would love to see the convention come west again, either to
>>> Colorado Denver or Colorado Springs.
>>> Closer to my home Montana.
>>> I understand why they wish not to come to Montana, but to Colorado
>>> because hotel rates are to high, I don't know about that one.
>
>>> Original message:
>>>> Brian,
>
>>>> I would agree.  When I asked Marc why they did not change the date of
>>>> Convention giving reasons similar to yours, and also pointing out that
>>>> cheaper hotel rates could probably be gotten at other times.  The answer
>>>> was
>>>> given that the July Conventions are what the membership want.
>
>>>> Now the one time I actually observed a vote on changing the date and
>>>> location of Convention than the ones we constantly go to took place, I
>>>> believed that the majority as a hole voted to change date and location
>>>> to
>>>> include other cities and get cheaper rates.  It sounded quite clear to
>>>> me
>>>> the membership wanted more varied locations and times.  However, Marc
>>>> said
>>>> that the motion to expand locations and times failed.  The State by
>>>> State
>>>> vote was then called for.  Naturally the result of the votes of the 50
>>>> State
>>>> Presidents was to leave the Convention date as it is currently.
>
>>>> Not really a majority decision.  But a decision made using the rules of
>>>> the
>>>> body as agreed upon.  I haven't been back to a Convention since.  Nor do
>>>> I
>>>> plan to, as long as they are in the middle of summer; when I'd prefer to
>>>> be
>>>> on the beach.  I guess you can call that, "William being a sore loser."
>>>> I
>>>> call it using my personal time as I see fit.  Should they try having it
>>>> in
>>>> Orlando in January, I think I might try to attend the Convention.  I'd
>>>> much
>>>> rather be in central Florida In January then now.
>
>
>
>>>> Thanks, William
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:49 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>>>> you say the leaders want everyone to attend in person?
>
>>>> the leaders refuse to budge about adjusting the dates so they don't land
>>>> on
>>>> 4th of july weekend.
>>>> i had much more fun camping with friends than i would ever had sitting
>>>> in a
>>>> chair listening to a person speaking all day and friends that want to be
>>>> with me instead of trying to find someone to eat/do things with after
>>>> the
>>>> sessions.
>
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>>>> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge
>>>>> progress.
>>>>> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none
>>>>> of
>>>>> it
>>>>> would be streamed.  The leadership wanted all to attend in person.  Not
>>>>> via
>>>>> internet.  The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are
>>>>> being
>>>>> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what
>>>>> Marc
>>>>> stated to me long ago.
>
>>>>> I am hoping to catch a little of it.  So I hope they get the kinks
>>>>> worked
>>>>> out soon.
>
>>>>> Thanks, William
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of James Aldrich
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>>>>> Hi Dave  and list,
>
>>>>> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things
>>>>> would
>>>>> be
>
>>>>> worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio
>>>>> files.
>
>>>>> The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the
>>>>> best
>>>>> they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are
>>>>> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The
>>>>> problem
>
>>>>> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment
>>>>> may
>>>>> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This
>>>>> nonsense
>>>>> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
>>>>> perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked!
>>>>> It
>>>>> is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their
>>>>> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in
>>>>> its
>>>>> intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do
>>>>> so!
>>>>> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we
>>>>> have!
>>>>> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to
>>>>> something!
>>>>> It
>
>>>>> gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better
>>>>> than
>>>>> it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
>>>>> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be
>>>>> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen
>>>>> later!
>>>>> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
>>>>> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
>>>>> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
>>>>> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something!
>>>>> Perhaps
>
>>>>> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation,
>>>>> what a
>>>>> novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various
>>>>> entaties
>>>>> to
>>>>> achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can
>>>>> stream
>>>>> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I
>>>>> think
>>>>> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the
>>>>> convention
>>>>> itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area
>>>>> where
>>>>> the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it
>>>>> would
>>>>> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!
>
>>>>> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things
>>>>> but I
>>>>> don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is
>>>>> flawed
>>>>> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the
>>>>> stream
>>>>> doesn't work, why bother?
>
>>>>> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at
>>>>> convention
>>>>> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one
>>>>> considers
>>>>> the
>
>>>>> rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could
>>>>> Email
>>>>> or
>>>>> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to
>>>>> vote
>
>>>>> on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB
>>>>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>> available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we
>>>>> aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say
>>>>> this
>
>>>>> is why streaming isn't a priority!
>
>>>>> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!
>
>>>>> Jim
>
>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>>>>> Jim:
>
>>>>>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> involved in the planning and execution?
>
>>>>>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>
>>>>>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are
>>>>>> trying
>
>>>>>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule,
>>>>>> URL's
>>>>>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to
>>>>>> me.
>
>
>>>>>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever
>>>>>> saw
>>>>>> on
>
>>>>>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is that widely used to me.
>
>>>>>> Dave
>
>>>>>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>> All!
>
>>>>>>> I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this
>>>>>>> is an
>>>>>>> expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>>>>>> expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> but
>
>>>>>>> one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>>>>>> Monitor comes out.
>
>>>>>>> Jim
>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>>>>>>> I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media
>>>>>>>> stream,
>>>>>>>> I
>
>>>>>>>> get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a
>>>>>>>> direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no
>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>> either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what
>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>> doing!
>
>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>
>>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr"
>>>>>>>>> <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>
>>>>>>>>>> I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>>>>>> starting time!!!!
>
>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>>>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>
>>>>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nfb-talk:
>
>
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jajkaldrich%40gmai
>>>>> l.com
>
>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nfb-talk:
>
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/william.ritchhart%
>>>>> 40sbcglobal.net
>
>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nfb-talk:
>
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob
>>>> al.net
>
>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nfb-talk:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/william.ritchhart%
>>>> 40sbcglobal.net
>
>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> for nfb-talk:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40samobile.net
>
>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nfb-talk mailing list
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nfb-talk:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40samobile.net
>
> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network.  Visit
> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nfb-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-talk_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40students.pccua.edu
>




More information about the nFB-Talk mailing list