[nfbcs] NVDA and IE find

Trevor Saunders trev.saunders at gmail.com
Sun Jul 11 21:34:55 UTC 2010 

Hi,

Personally I have been using unix machines for the past couple years
and haven't payed too much attention to the number of security
vulnerabilities found in IE.  I have however noticed several fairly
significant exploits have been published over the past year or two, and the
fairly recent decision by google to stop installing windows all
together on there own machines (I don't have a link right here).
Not having noticed an exploited machine doesn't imply that the system is
secure, for that matter not having any published exploits doesn't
either.  THe only real way to be sure the system is secure is to read
all of the code involved, and try to exploit the machines in question,
but of course checking even a small fraction of the code is very hard.

Trev

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 04:46:13PM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
> The only security weakness I've found in Internet Explorer as compared to
> Firefox is that the latter did a much better job at stopping rogue programs
> from penetrating my computer.  Mind you, this was only at one gaming web
> site, and even having experienced this, I continue to use Internet Explorer
> as my primary browser.  There are more interesting features on Firefox, but
> I do not find all of them accessible, including the Favorites menu.  I may
> change my tune when IE 9 rolls out with no support for Windows XP.
> 
> Joe
> 
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:21 PM
> To: NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] NVDA and IE find
> 
> Can you please explain to me how "you" think it is not secure?
> 
> I ask this because I am a technology trainer and consultant for 
> several state governmental agencies and we use I.E 8, and we 
> don't find it to be a problem. Something tells me you are going 
> more by what you here and less by what you really know.
> 
> 
> Gabe Vega
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> 
> On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Trevor Saunders wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm not sure about IE8 though I believe it may be a  little 
> better, but IE is fairly well known to be terribly insecure.
> > 
> > Trev
> > 
> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 01:11:46PM -0700, Gabe Vega wrote:
> >> Can you explain why I should not use I.E. 8 for my browsing? 
> I am sitting here wondering if this is a fashion statement or 
> if there is any real substance to it.
> >> Gabe Vega
> >> (Phone voice and SMS: 623) 565-9357
> >> Check out the centralized location for all my Social Networks
> >> http://thebt.net
> >> 
> >> On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Trevor Saunders wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> I'm not sure about IE, but find works fine in firefox.  If you don't
> >>> have a very good reason to use IE I'd use firefox, or any other
> >>> accessible browser that isn't IE if it is an option.
> >>> 
> >>> Trev
> >>> 
> >>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 03:56:10PM -0400, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
> >>>> Good afternoon Nancy,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have only used System Access once.  Can you please 
> provide some reasons that you believe it to be better than 
> NVDA?  I'd like to know what I'm missing.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I definitely find NVDA to be far superior than JAWS in Firefox
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Everett Zufelt
> >>>> http://zufelt.ca
> >>>> 
> >>>> Follow me on Twitter
> >>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
> >>>> 
> >>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 2010-07-11, at 3:52 PM, Nancy Coffman wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I have been known to use www.satogo.com for a free scren 
> reader.  It is certainly better than NVDA and if she likes it, 
> it is one of the least expensive screen readers on the market.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Nancy Coffman
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione" 
> <carcione at access.net>
> >>>>> To: <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:41 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] NVDA and IE find
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> I like to use control-f in IE to find what I'm looking 
> for on complicated
> >>>>>> websites.  I am having trouble using this find with 
> NVDA.  I open the find
> >>>>>> dialog, put in what I want to find, tab to next, hit 
> enter.  It finds the
> >>>>>> first thing, but if I hit f3 to refind, it doesn't do it.
> >>>>>> Anyone know how to make find work with NVDA?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Also, my sister-in-law is trying to use NVDA with 
> Windows 7, with less
> >>>>>> success than I am having with XP.  Are there other 
> low-cost screen readers
> >>>>>> she could try with Windows 7, or is there some trick to 
> make NVDA work
> >>>>>> better?  She is a total novice with computers, which 
> complicates things.
> >>>>>> TIA.
> >>>>>> Tracy
> >>>>>> r-in-law is try
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
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