[nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request

[David Andrews via nfbcs]

I use WinSCP.

Dave

At 07:44 PM 5/21/2014, you wrote:
>Do you use a Windows ssh client?  I have been using teraterm myself.
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
>Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos.
>
> > On May 21, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs 
> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > If you decide to take the ssh route, I can also answer questions as I do it
> > every day at work.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Barbour via
> > nfbcs
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:53 AM
> > To: Ian C. Bray via nfbcs
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request
> >
> > I'm not John, but I do use Linux/UNIX daily and have a few points to make.
> >
> > First, Orca is not as stable as JAWS, Window Eyes, or voiceover.  It keeps
> > getting worked on, and I would call it usable, but you'll have to get used
> > to more crashes, hangs, inconsistant behavior, etc.
> >
> > However, much of what gets done in Linux can be done from inside a terminal
> > -- think of a fancier cmd.exe window.
> >
> > If you figure out that what you need linux for can be done from the command
> > line, this opens up two other options for you.
> >
> > First, you can find out if your linux box allows incoming ssh connections.
> > ssh is a method for accessing other, most UNIX like, hosts.
> >
> > If your linux box allows incoming ssh connections, or if you can enable
> > them, then you can install an ssh client on your windows machine and use
> > jaws plus your ssh client to access your linux box.
> > You can have as many ssh sessions opened as you like, meaning you can do
> > many tasks at once.
> >
> > Second, you can configure your linux box to not run X-windows, and instead
> > just run a terminal based screen reader.  There are two that I know of.
> > Terminal based screen readers operate directly within the 
> terminal, behaving
> > like DOS screen readers from 30 years ago.  Your keystrokes get 
> echoed, your
> > output gets read to you, you can use review cursors to explore the screen,
> > you can use programs that divide your physical screen into several logical
> > ones, so you can do multiple things at once, etc.
> >
> > If any of this sounds interesting to you, feel free to ask about them here
> > and one of us can tell you more.
> >
> > Take Care,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:10:17AM -0400, Ian  C. Bray via nfbcs wrote:
> >> John,
> >>
> >> Is there a huge learning curve?
> >> I'm a JAWS user, but know nothing of ORCA and your suggeted reader.
> >> Are ORCA & Yours similar to operate??
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Heim via nfbcs"
> >> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:49 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request
> >>
> >>
> >>> In my opinion, the best talking distro out there is sonar linux. I
> >>> don't know the URL, you can google that though. I was so impressed
> >>> with sonar I installed it on my machine at home. And I do linux
> >>> support for a living. I have not tried the latest version though.
> >>> They recently switched from basing their distro on linux to basing it
> >>> on arch (I think).
> >>>
> >>> If you need something based on ubuntu, you can try vinux.
> >>>
> >>> There is currently a huge debate going on on the orca list about
> >>> standardizing the key bindings to make it easier for users to switch
> >>> from Windows to linux. It has gotten heated enough that I took myself
> >>> off the list for a while. But I can virtually guarantee that there
> >>> will be no changes. I was about the only one who even seemed to think
> >>> it was worth considering. I'll admit that it would be wrong to change
> >>> the orca keys to be like those of jaws. What I would hope for,
> >>> though, it to get people to agree that if some standardization could
> >>> be done, it would be a good thing. People won't even go for that. It's
> > ridiculous, IMO.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On May 17, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Ian C. Bray via nfbcs wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there anyone out there who can help me get an UBUNTU  box started
> >>>> so that it has some varriant of speech that functions simillarly to
> >>>> JAWS?
> >>>>
> >>>> I-- have no idea where to start with this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tami Jarvis spoke to me about ORCA-- and I have only been diving
> >>>> into my own SEMI-Professional Accessibility Needs recently.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have an ancient LAPTOP with 12.8 LTS on it, and I would like to
> >>>> get back to my Unix / Linux Tinkering.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mentorship & off-line phone conversations & EMail Groups / Listservs
> >>>> welcome.
> >>>> I do not do well in forums-- but I'm not saying I won't try.
> >>>>
> >>>> Respectfully,