[Nfbf-l] Communication is a Two-Way Street

Tue Dec 8 02:34:31 UTC 2009

Marion, I appreciate your thoughtful consideration of my messages! Unlike 
yourself however, I am not afraid of speaking the truth and don't have any 
worry's of being outcast from the NfB as you do. See, I have had a life 
prior to the NFB and quite successful at that. Unlike yourself you need this 
resource to be heard as you wouldn't be able to be heard in any other normal 
environment you sad man! I guess you do know how to get along in restricted 
environments as you have been in one most of your life, and You do know what 
I mean by that, don't you? So, since you need to spew out your holier than 
thou verbage amongst the restricted listeners you have to listen to your 
crap, you go ahead and go for it! Unlike you, I had a life prior to people 
like you and your little world of incompetence so which all you can do is 
cry to the one fifth of the blind in America if even that since their is 
over 3.1 million blind in America and the NFBB has only been able to grab 
onto around 50,000 of  them and you get to only speak to about 500 of them 
to boot! TSK! What a sorry man! good bye Marion, and I hope all the studying 
you got in while the tax payers not only payed for your education, we payed 
for your small room and board to boot! Please don't contact me again nor 
respond to me any more on this site as if you do, it could get very moch 
uglier for you than this one was! KH----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Communication is a Two-Way Street

Kirk,
    I appreciate your pair of thoughtful, professional, dignified, and
insightful messages. I understand your concerns and wish I could respond in
an equally thoughtful, professional, dignified, and insightful manner;
however, I believe you have demonstrated my point more astutely and
accurately than I could do so myself! . I will take your comments under
advisement!

fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala, President
East Hillsborough Chapter
National Federation of the Blind of Florida
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Communication is a Two-Way Street

> Marion, I have spent 6 years  speaking  out to leaders and  unfortunately
> people like youself didn't like  what I said or the fact that I got
> things
> done without making excuses why they couldn't be done! Marion  as far as
> cowardice, please! The whole you are bringing all  this crap out in the
> memberships eye is your personal fued  with Dan Hicks and nothing more!
> You
> could of ccontacted him personally and quitely to protest the lethargy
> with
> putting the minutes out there for all to read, and this is going to your
> leaders as you just said in your comments to all that are reading! You are
> nothing more that a damn hipocrit in what you say or do! I have withstood
> people like yourself as long as I could and realized that this
> organization
> is nothing more than blow hards as yourself and cowards themselves that
> have
> got there leaderships by just following along like sheep and never
> speaking
> the truth at what they see wrong for fear they might not be able to find
> the
> next step in the NFB leadership ladder rung if they allowed there
> disagreeing words get to the  powers that be at National,  God Forbid, !
> So,
> don't call me the coward my friend, look inward for sure! It is people
> like
> yourself in the  advocacy community thtat make me sick! good bye you ego
> maniac! by the way, what the hell did you do as the State fundraiser when
> you were chair? LOL! that's right, NOTHING! KH
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:21 AM
> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Communication is a Two-Way Street
>
>
> Kirk and All,
>    With all due respect, communication is a two-way street. If we expect
> better communication from our leadership, we must be willing to give it to
> them, as well! If we, the membership, only share our disgruntled feelings
> with each other and never take them to the leadership, we are doing a
> disservice to our selves, our fellow Federationists, and the organization,
> as a whole. There are a few of us who have been demanding transparency and
> accountability from the Board of Directors for quite some time and we have
> frequently felt like a lone voice! The NFB is founded on the concept of
> collective action. Both words of this concept are important. We must speak
> as a group, collectively, and be willing to work for change through our
> actions. One aspect of this action is our vote. The membership - including
> you and me - elected our Board. It is up to us to either demand
> acountability to those who elected them or elect those who will listen to
> us
> and do what we want them to do.
>    If you, Kirk, or any other member have something to say that concerns
> this affiliate, say it publicly so that those of us who are advocating for
> change do not feel alone in our efforts and so that the
> Board knows the discension is not only one or two disgruntled members but
> a
> general feeling that we are being betrayed and ignored by those we have
> entrusted to do what is right for this affiliate! If you are unwilling to
> speak out publicly, don't talk privately. This is cowardice!
>
> Fraternally & Respectfully yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Our benefit dinner and show
>
>
>> David, will you please give me a call? Kirk Harmon
>>
>> Ph: 407-380-3371  or  407-473-2176....
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "davidw" <dwermuth1 at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Florida Association of Guide Dog Users" <flagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "NFB of Florida Listserv" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:37 AM
>> Subject: [Nfbf-l] Our benefit dinner and show
>>
>>
>> What a great turnout last night promoteing our business " A to Z Adaptive
>> Aids"  we raised some money to purchase independent aids for those that
>> need
>> them but can't...
>>
>> We had NFB brochures out and quite a few people asked about the
>> organization.  I quite frankly when asked the question's they were
>> asking,
>> "what does the NFB of Florida do"  I didn't have a answer and honestly
>> had
>> to say, "I really don't know" and "your guess is as good as mine"  I
>> honestly didn't have any answer's for them and after discussing this with
>> Holly Schneider (vice president of the Hernando chapter)  we both have
>> decided to resign as members of Florida NFB.  We will remain as members
>> nationally  and continue to fight for individual rights as citizens but
>> under a different flag.  Is there a ACB chapter in Hernando county?  If
>> anyone can pass this information to us,  dwermuth1 at earthlink.net  we
>> would
>> like to find more about what they are doing and perhaps start a chapter
>> here.
>>
>> Regards and best luck in the future when you all have a chance to vote on
>> change on your leadership.
>>
>> Dave Wermuth and Holly Schneider
>>
>>
>>
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