[Nfbf-l] CCB stay denied, please help

Thu Mar 11 19:07:25 UTC 2010

Her Parents went in front of a judge and had encapasatedher decleared 
incompantatant!
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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] CCB stay denied, please help


>
> Hello Beth,
> I have been following this list serve dialog and believe that in my 
> opinion it would be in your best interest if you sharpen up your 
> independent living skills and prepare for that journey to Colorado.  I am 
> sure that Kathy Davis and Carlos Montos will attest that these centers of 
> training are intense regimented facilities and will not pamper you.  If 
> you are serious enough and determined to want to include them into the 
> construction of a strong foundation underneath your desire to reach a 
> complete independent life then I suggest you rise above these small 
> obstacles, use some tact and finesse, and convince your parents that it is 
> the best way to secure a good future to reach your independent life goals.
> Blessings of Peace & Joy,
> Peter Cerullo
> Vice President
> Greater Daytona Beach Chapter N.F.B.F.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathy Davis <kdavisnfbf at cfl.rr.com>
> To: 'NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List' <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2010 10:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] CCB stay denied, please help
>
>
> Hi Beth,
> How old are you now? I just can't remember considering how fast the years
> ly by. I guess my point is that if you are an adult, your parents 
> shouldn't
> ave anything to do with your desire to go to the Colorado Center. I
> ouldn't take anything from having attended the Louisiana Center for the
> lind. Both rehab programs are so empowering and by the time you complete
> he program you will never have to return for further training. I am behind
> ou one hundred percent. Stick to your guns and go where you know you can
> et the absolute best training in all aspects of your life.
> Kathy Davis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbf-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> f Beth
> ent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:26 PM
> o: NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List
> ubject: Re: [Nfbf-l] CCB stay denied, please help
> Yes, Holly.  My parents want to make that decision for me.  But that's not
> oing to happen because of how they view me and other blind people.  Their
> hing is I have a strong sense of entitlement.  Well, suppose I say that 
> all
> mericans have a strong sense of entitlement.
> o life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  I can't even pursue
> appiness without my life and liberty, and I can't pursue liberty without
> ife.  All three principles that Americans live by are being violated by
> his roadblock my parents are trying to put up.
> eth
> On 3/9/10, Holly <hbeanie at gmail.com> wrote:
> Your Parents decision? Really?
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just spoke with Walter Blackman.  He said it was my parents'
>> decision-making that was hindering me from doing this.  He's going to
>> meet with me next Thursday.  I have to somehow get to the Terlington
>> Building downtown.
>> Beth
>>
>> On 3/9/10, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I wonder what Craig Kiser would say about this? RJ
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>> > To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 7:28 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] CCB stay denied, please help
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Dear Beth,
>> >>
>> >> Too far my foot.  How about services in Hawaii.  They can teach
>> >> you the Hula and they specialize in Hospitality and Travel
>> >> services training, which includes how to prepare a pig for a Louo
> east.
>> >> lets see them find that in the lesson plans at Daytona.
>> >> Keep pushing on them.  They are just stonewalling you and there is
>> funding
>> >>
>> >> for it, the distance does not matter and they have provided it for
>> others.
>> >> Contact Joann Wilson or Dr. Fred Schroder through NFB HQ and see
>> >> what
>> they
>> >>
>> >> say.  They are both former Directors of the RSA.
>> >> Ask Kathy Davis as they sent her to Louisiana.
>> >>
>> >> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:21 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] CCB stay denied, please help
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> The only reason why they're denying me is because it's "too far
> way."
>> >>> If you read the quote closely, that's what they're doing.
>> >>> Beth
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/8/10, David Evans <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear Beth,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You have the Right, under the Freedom of Choice Provision of the
>> >>>> Rehab Act of 1973 as amended, to attend the Rehab center of your
>> >>>> choice.
>> >>>> Dbs can not denie you, but they can refuse to pay any more of
>> >>>> the cost than it would be to attend in state.  You would be
>> >>>> responsible for the difference.  They could pay for it all, if
>> >>>> they want to, and they have done it for others in the past.
>> >>>> You don't have to justify it to them, except to say that is
>> >>>> where you prefer to attend.
>> >>>> There are certainly classes at CCB that can not be had in Florida.
>> >>>> Wood Shop , rock climbing, Rural travel skills, etc, etc.
>> >>>> Inquire
>> with
>> >>>> CCB
>> >>>> and see what they do different than Florida and pick that in
>> >>>> addition
>> to
>> >>>> everything else they teach.
>> >>>> The State has sent people there before and also other places,
>> >>>> out of state.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Write a complaint to the RSA in Washington about their violation
>> >>>> of
>> your
>> >>>> Right to Choice.
>> >>>> Hammer on them It is the same as a high school student picking a
>> college
>> >>>>
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> go to attend.  If you believe they have a better program there
>> >>>> than here, that is all you need.  There are no provisions within
>> >>>> the Law that
>> says
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> you have to prove that there is a difference.  The rest is just
>> >>>> made
>> up
>> >>>> B.S.
>> >>>> by D.B.S.
>> >>>> I know, I helped get the Law passed back in 1991.
>> >>>> It was one of the first bills, I as a member of the Florida
>> >>>> delegation took to Congress at the Washington Seminar in 1991.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> They have sent a number of people from Florida to other centers
>> >>>> out of state.
>> >>>>  Why are they demining you?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> >>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:15 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] CCB stay denied, please help
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> What you will have to do is show them what you can get in
>> >>>>> Colorado that you can't get in Florida.  You then have to
>> >>>>> relate that to your plan and why it is necessary.  I know it
>> >>>>> all seems like BS, but that is how the system works.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dave
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> At 02:24 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote:
>> >>>>>>Hi, guys.  I just got word from DBS that my stay at Colorado
>> >>>>>>Center for the Blind was denied.  According to Beth Crain, my
>> >>>>>>counselor,
>> "DBS
>> >>>>>>is not able to send someone that far away, when there are other
>> >>>>>>options closer."  I call it bullshit and against my right to
>> >>>>>>informed choice.  If any of you guys wants to help me with
>> >>>>>>this, that would  be nice.
>> >>>>>>Sincerely,
>> >>>>>>Beth Taurasi
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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