[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?

Tue May 14 16:56:10 UTC 2013

quite the interesting topic.  :)

Another take away; if you're interested and have the time, taking a
dance class, even if only for a few weeks, might be an option.  Most
universities offer them for credit, and they're a great work out.  I
took a West Coast Swing class in middle school and I still find myself
using some of those moves at formals now, plus it's fun.

And Mary is right.  The funniest memory I have from last semester was
when I was at a sleep over and a few other girls tried to teach me to
do moves like the stanky leg so I could propperly dance to Thriftshop.
 It was hilarious for all of us, and I got a new move out of it.

On 5/14/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/14/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/13/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yep, you got it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:16 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>
>>> So I guess the main takeaways are.
>>> 1. If you want to learn how to dance, it is best  to get a friend or
>>> family
>>> member to teach you.
>>> 2 It's probably better to use a collapsable/telescoping  cane,
>>> especially
>>> in
>>> larger dance halls.
>>>  3. Confidence (as in many aspects in life) is key; even if it's liquid
>>> courage *smile* (don't worry under-agers, confidence is much better than
>>> the
>>> alternative because you'll  feel better in the morning hahaha) 4.
>>> ladies,
>>> it's all in the purse (where  would we  be without you, Julie? *smile*).
>>> 5. ladies: feel free to use  your date as a cane storer( . if  it works.
>>> I'm
>>> starting to get the idea that the ladies  have a  easier time here than
>>> the
>>> fellas).
>>>   6. Cane holders may or not be an option ( experimentation is probably
>>> where it's at on this one, again, unless your date doubles as a cane
>>> storer
>>> *smile*)  7. It's all about country music. no, it's all about rap. nope,
>>> all
>>> about having fun, so just go with it!
>>>  does that just about cover it?
>>>  yay for NABS!
>>>  now back to the academic  stuff.
>>>  )
>>>
>>> .
>>> On May 13, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,  I don't go to these types of functions a lot if I can help
>>>> it...  But I used to go to formals when I was in high school.  Back
>>>> then I went with a group of friends.  We all had a pact that we would
>>>> never leave one of our group alone.  It wasn't about me being blind or
>>>> anything; we just didn't want to lose each other.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, that isn't practical  now that I'm older.  But I don't
>>>> think I would ever set my cane aside in a corner or against a wall at
>>>> a dance party.  There are too many people.  It is very easy to lose
>>>> your friends  or whoever you are with.  Dances are also kind of
>>>> disorienting to me because of the noise and the crowds, so I would
>>>> feel nervous without my cane to help me get out.  For the women, I
>>>> would suggest getting a purse.  You can get a light wait one that
>>>> hangs over your shoulder and in front of you.  Just make it as light
>>>> as you can to help you dance, but make sure it's big enough for a
>>>> cane.  There are all types of purses.  If your outfit is dark, you can
>>>> match a black one, and if you're wearing a brighter colored dress,
>>>> then go with something silver.  Having a matching dress and shoes is
>>>> always a good way to go.  You don't even need a heavy leather purse.
>>>> A light, cloth one will do.  It also depends on your dress too and how
>>>> formal the event is.  To be honest, I would feel safer keeping a purse
>>>> on me as a blind person because I would hate to misplace something
>>>> like that at a dance and be unable to find it again.  Also, girls, a
>>>> purse is a great place to store the heals when you get tired of them.
>>>>
>>>> As for the dancing, I don't know since I avoid it whenever possible.
>>>> I'd rather talk to people and listen to music I actually like.  The
>>>> club type music isn't really my thing either.  But it's easy enough to
>>>> learn standard dances from a trusted friend or family member.  My
>>>> friends taught me and/or led me through all those dances in high
>>>> school.  But I'd still rather not dance at all.  :)
>>>>
>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Carly,
>>>>> I'm not offended at all, so don't even worry about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A new infraction, TUI (traveling under the influence) CarAt 07:13 PM
>>>>>> 5/13/2013, Darian Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> That makes sense, a lot of sense.
>>>>>>> well.. except for that's the first I  have heard of someone
>>>>>>> succeeding a little more so at traveling  when they have had
>>>>>>> something to drink; guess we should try to  incorporate that into
>>>>>>> cane travel curriculum at our training centers *smile*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at  functions with blind people I would even  venture to say that
>>>>>>> it's tough to get your own cane back just because someone almost
>>>>>>> always walks out with someone else's cane haha On May 13, 2013, at
>>>>>>> 7:00 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like to jump and twirl around a lot while dancing, so if I tried
>>>>>>>> putting my cane down somewhere next to me I would definitely lose
>>>>>>>> it by the end, and I tend to get kind of disoriented in the
>>>>>>>> process of doing that so finding my table or corner again without
>>>>>>>> a cane can be kind of tricky. Although if I've had a drink or two,
>>>>>>>> I tend to be a better traveler... Or maybe just a more confident
>>>>>>>> one. :) I haven't gone out dancing for a long while now so I don't
>>>>>>>> remember if I kept a purse with me or not. If I went to a club or
>>>>>>>> somewhere else where I didn't know many people then I think I
>>>>>>>> would keep it on, but I would probably prefer to carry a small
>>>>>>>> purse that might not be big enough for the cane. I've actually had
>>>>>>>> the most cane trouble at dances with other blind people, because
>>>>>>>> everybody has a cane and there aren't many folks to keep an eye on
>>>>>>>> your cane for you. I suppose the purse or cane holster might be
>>>>>>>> the best solution, unless there are good sound cues in the venue
>>>>>>>> and it's not so crowded as to be impossible to navigate without a
>>> cane.
>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I thought I'd chyme in on this one!
>>>>>>>>> I hate dancing, because the dances I've been to, had a DJ that
>>>>>>>>> only played rap music.
>>>>>>>>> Where's the classic Country when I need it?
>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Darian
>>>>>>>>> Smith [dsmithnfb at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:41 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are just brave, I guess. hahaha On May 13, 2013, at 6:22 PM,
>>>>>>>>> Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes--and it's funny that everyone who responded to this thread
>>>>>>>>>> before me has been male?
>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, indeed!  I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly...I
>>>>>>>>>>> suppose that would work for any of us guys, if we didn't really
>>>>>>>>>>> care about looking strange...just one of the reasons guys have
>>>>>>>>>>> it easier, I guess.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a
>>>>>>>>>>>> dress? Just thinking about it is kind of hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Arielle,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> belt loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for telescopic canes?  I think they look kind of silly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally but I suppose it's an option.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had bar and bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming-of-age that happen at age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitzvahs, so I became comfortable with dancing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially looking stupid at quite a young age. :) I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some people taught me how to dance, though I can't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who and honestly, by now I've forgotten most of my formal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had fun and nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to be with me on the dance floor because of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing. So I don't think you need to worry too much about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how you appear to others. If the group is doing a line dance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a drink or snack or whatever, during that song. If you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to learn some things, you could ask a friend or family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member who has lots of dancing experience to teach you or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just to watch your moves and tell you what's good and what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you could change or improve on. Also, slow dancing is easy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for girls who are just supposed to follow the man, but if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you may want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sighted friend and stash my cane at a table while my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend and I danced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'd like to be able to keep track of my cane myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having it on the dance floor with me. If I go to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing event I usually am not wearing clothes that allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for storage of a telescoping cane, unless I bring a purse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landmark of some sort like the bar or music stand and put my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane in a corner near that spot. But this doesn't work as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well in large venues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a guy then; it's cool.  That works.  Longg as he can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance a little, and is a good teacher.  Tell him to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you your body for you at first so you can get the movement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In japah, that is how the black belts teach the white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> belts.  That is how my instructor instructs me.  Also, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't drink, then that is fine too.  That is just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick I use.  You can do the same thing with a cup of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other methods will work just fine.  You just got to mix and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> match my man.  Mix and match.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi listers:  should gender matter  in who teaches you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and  what would you suggest if you cannot or  choose not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partake in alcoholic  beverages?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are very interesting points indeed,  Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious as to other ways you might go about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Justin!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible; however, there are just times in social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situations where you just have to shake a leg.  Do the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best you can.  Just move your hips and try to keep up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the beat.  There are a lot of other people out there with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you who can't dance either.  They also look terrible.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you drink, it loosen's you up just a little.  It doen't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you better, you jus think you are.  Smile just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little even if you don't like dancing, or aren't very good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at it.  The appearance of enjoyment, or hopefully you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps.  I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the dance floor.  I get fairly drunk on nights like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that if I go out with a group of people because I am using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trips to the bar as an excuse not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance.  Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl to teach you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please  excuse  the slight 80's song reference,  but I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious about how you all go about attending social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions where dancing is a part of the atmosphere?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you decide to not  take part in it because you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to dance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you too shy?   Do you just get out there regardless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance  if you can't do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a lot of folks do and watch it  on television  or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
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