[nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
Darian Smith
dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Fri May 17 03:58:48 UTC 2013
fun times being taught how to dance.
What kind of experiences have you all had with dance classes?
On May 14, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> quite the interesting topic. :)
>
> Another take away; if you're interested and have the time, taking a
> dance class, even if only for a few weeks, might be an option. Most
> universities offer them for credit, and they're a great work out. I
> took a West Coast Swing class in middle school and I still find myself
> using some of those moves at formals now, plus it's fun.
>
> And Mary is right. The funniest memory I have from last semester was
> when I was at a sleep over and a few other girls tried to teach me to
> do moves like the stanky leg so I could propperly dance to Thriftshop.
> It was hilarious for all of us, and I got a new move out of it.
>
> On 5/14/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/14/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/13/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yep, you got it.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian
>>>> Smith
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:16 AM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>
>>>> So I guess the main takeaways are.
>>>> 1. If you want to learn how to dance, it is best to get a friend or
>>>> family
>>>> member to teach you.
>>>> 2 It's probably better to use a collapsable/telescoping cane,
>>>> especially
>>>> in
>>>> larger dance halls.
>>>> 3. Confidence (as in many aspects in life) is key; even if it's liquid
>>>> courage *smile* (don't worry under-agers, confidence is much better than
>>>> the
>>>> alternative because you'll feel better in the morning hahaha) 4.
>>>> ladies,
>>>> it's all in the purse (where would we be without you, Julie? *smile*).
>>>> 5. ladies: feel free to use your date as a cane storer( . if it works.
>>>> I'm
>>>> starting to get the idea that the ladies have a easier time here than
>>>> the
>>>> fellas).
>>>> 6. Cane holders may or not be an option ( experimentation is probably
>>>> where it's at on this one, again, unless your date doubles as a cane
>>>> storer
>>>> *smile*) 7. It's all about country music. no, it's all about rap. nope,
>>>> all
>>>> about having fun, so just go with it!
>>>> does that just about cover it?
>>>> yay for NABS!
>>>> now back to the academic stuff.
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, I don't go to these types of functions a lot if I can help
>>>>> it... But I used to go to formals when I was in high school. Back
>>>>> then I went with a group of friends. We all had a pact that we would
>>>>> never leave one of our group alone. It wasn't about me being blind or
>>>>> anything; we just didn't want to lose each other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, that isn't practical now that I'm older. But I don't
>>>>> think I would ever set my cane aside in a corner or against a wall at
>>>>> a dance party. There are too many people. It is very easy to lose
>>>>> your friends or whoever you are with. Dances are also kind of
>>>>> disorienting to me because of the noise and the crowds, so I would
>>>>> feel nervous without my cane to help me get out. For the women, I
>>>>> would suggest getting a purse. You can get a light wait one that
>>>>> hangs over your shoulder and in front of you. Just make it as light
>>>>> as you can to help you dance, but make sure it's big enough for a
>>>>> cane. There are all types of purses. If your outfit is dark, you can
>>>>> match a black one, and if you're wearing a brighter colored dress,
>>>>> then go with something silver. Having a matching dress and shoes is
>>>>> always a good way to go. You don't even need a heavy leather purse.
>>>>> A light, cloth one will do. It also depends on your dress too and how
>>>>> formal the event is. To be honest, I would feel safer keeping a purse
>>>>> on me as a blind person because I would hate to misplace something
>>>>> like that at a dance and be unable to find it again. Also, girls, a
>>>>> purse is a great place to store the heals when you get tired of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the dancing, I don't know since I avoid it whenever possible.
>>>>> I'd rather talk to people and listen to music I actually like. The
>>>>> club type music isn't really my thing either. But it's easy enough to
>>>>> learn standard dances from a trusted friend or family member. My
>>>>> friends taught me and/or led me through all those dances in high
>>>>> school. But I'd still rather not dance at all. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Carly,
>>>>>> I'm not offended at all, so don't even worry about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A new infraction, TUI (traveling under the influence) CarAt 07:13 PM
>>>>>>> 5/13/2013, Darian Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> That makes sense, a lot of sense.
>>>>>>>> well.. except for that's the first I have heard of someone
>>>>>>>> succeeding a little more so at traveling when they have had
>>>>>>>> something to drink; guess we should try to incorporate that into
>>>>>>>> cane travel curriculum at our training centers *smile*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at functions with blind people I would even venture to say that
>>>>>>>> it's tough to get your own cane back just because someone almost
>>>>>>>> always walks out with someone else's cane haha On May 13, 2013, at
>>>>>>>> 7:00 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like to jump and twirl around a lot while dancing, so if I tried
>>>>>>>>> putting my cane down somewhere next to me I would definitely lose
>>>>>>>>> it by the end, and I tend to get kind of disoriented in the
>>>>>>>>> process of doing that so finding my table or corner again without
>>>>>>>>> a cane can be kind of tricky. Although if I've had a drink or two,
>>>>>>>>> I tend to be a better traveler... Or maybe just a more confident
>>>>>>>>> one. :) I haven't gone out dancing for a long while now so I don't
>>>>>>>>> remember if I kept a purse with me or not. If I went to a club or
>>>>>>>>> somewhere else where I didn't know many people then I think I
>>>>>>>>> would keep it on, but I would probably prefer to carry a small
>>>>>>>>> purse that might not be big enough for the cane. I've actually had
>>>>>>>>> the most cane trouble at dances with other blind people, because
>>>>>>>>> everybody has a cane and there aren't many folks to keep an eye on
>>>>>>>>> your cane for you. I suppose the purse or cane holster might be
>>>>>>>>> the best solution, unless there are good sound cues in the venue
>>>>>>>>> and it's not so crowded as to be impossible to navigate without a
>>>> cane.
>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I thought I'd chyme in on this one!
>>>>>>>>>> I hate dancing, because the dances I've been to, had a DJ that
>>>>>>>>>> only played rap music.
>>>>>>>>>> Where's the classic Country when I need it?
>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Darian
>>>>>>>>>> Smith [dsmithnfb at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:41 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are just brave, I guess. hahaha On May 13, 2013, at 6:22 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes--and it's funny that everyone who responded to this thread
>>>>>>>>>>> before me has been male?
>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, indeed! I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly...I
>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose that would work for any of us guys, if we didn't really
>>>>>>>>>>>> care about looking strange...just one of the reasons guys have
>>>>>>>>>>>> it easier, I guess. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, but if I'm going dancing I'm not going to be wearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything that holds a belt! How can you stow a cane on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dress? Just thinking about it is kind of hilarious!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Arielle,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen those funky cane holster thingies that attach to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> belt loop or something, maybe there are versions somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for telescopic canes? I think they look kind of silly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally but I suppose it's an option.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was fortunate to grow up among many Jewish kids who all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had bar and bat mitzvahs, (Jewish celebrations of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming-of-age that happen at age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 or 13) and most had dance parties for their bar and bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitzvahs, so I became comfortable with dancing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially looking stupid at quite a young age. :) I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some people taught me how to dance, though I can't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who and honestly, by now I've forgotten most of my formal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction. I do remember being told that dancing is mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about having fun and just moving your body to the beat of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the music. I'm sure I don't dance perfectly but I've always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had fun and nobody has ever criticized my dancing or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to be with me on the dance floor because of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing. So I don't think you need to worry too much about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how you appear to others. If the group is doing a line dance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the YMCA, and you don't know the moves for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular dance, there's no problem with sitting it out or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just moving off the dance floor to talk to people, or go get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a drink or snack or whatever, during that song. If you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to learn some things, you could ask a friend or family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member who has lots of dancing experience to teach you or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just to watch your moves and tell you what's good and what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you could change or improve on. Also, slow dancing is easy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for girls who are just supposed to follow the man, but if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're a guy and want to learn how to slow-dance with women
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you may want to get a little bit of formal instruction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is where to put my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane while dancing. When I was younger I would just go with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sighted friend and stash my cane at a table while my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend and I danced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm less comfortable being with the same person all night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'd like to be able to keep track of my cane myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having it on the dance floor with me. If I go to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dancing event I usually am not wearing clothes that allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for storage of a telescoping cane, unless I bring a purse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep it on me while dancing, which I suppose is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option. I'm curious if others have found good ways to manage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue. The best solution I've used is to find a sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landmark of some sort like the bar or music stand and put my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane in a corner near that spot. But this doesn't work as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well in large venues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a guy then; it's cool. That works. Longg as he can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance a little, and is a good teacher. Tell him to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you your body for you at first so you can get the movement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In japah, that is how the black belts teach the white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> belts. That is how my instructor instructs me. Also, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't drink, then that is fine too. That is just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick I use. You can do the same thing with a cup of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water, or a soda; it should work the same way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to hang onto a cup like that, then any of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other methods will work just fine. You just got to mix and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> match my man. Mix and match.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi listers: should gender matter in who teaches you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and what would you suggest if you cannot or choose not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partake in alcoholic beverages?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are very interesting points indeed, Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious as to other ways you might go about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Justin!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 3:59 PM, justin williams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a friend, preferably a girl to teach you how to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping a drink in your hand will give you an excuse not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to dance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I avoid dance clubs like the plague if at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible; however, there are just times in social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situations where you just have to shake a leg. Do the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best you can. Just move your hips and try to keep up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the beat. There are a lot of other people out there with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you who can't dance either. They also look terrible. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you drink, it loosen's you up just a little. It doen't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you better, you jus think you are. Smile just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little even if you don't like dancing, or aren't very good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at it. The appearance of enjoyment, or hopefully you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually enjoying your self, lets everyone see that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are confident; you can't dance and you know it, but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps. I feel you man; I'm in the same boat as you accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have learned a few tricks to fake it until I can get off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the dance floor. I get fairly drunk on nights like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that if I go out with a group of people because I am using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trips to the bar as an excuse not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dance. Remember, if possible, get a friend, especially a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl to teach you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Darian Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] CanI dance if I want to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the slight 80's song reference, but I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious about how you all go about attending social
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions where dancing is a part of the atmosphere?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you decide to not take part in it because you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to dance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you too shy? Do you just get out there regardless?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dancing, how do you learn how to dance if you can't do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a lot of folks do and watch it on television or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darian
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>>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member, National
>>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary, Missouri
>>>>> Association of Guide dog Users President, and Guiding Eyes for the
>>>>> Blind graduate 2008 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only
>>>>> Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have
>>>>> eternal life."
>>>>> John 3:16
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