[nagdu] Missing Washington Co. Boy Found After 5-Mile BarefootWalk

Tue May 18 23:31:10 UTC 2010

Katrin,

I think you raised some very good points in this message. I remember the 
study you're referring to, wherin the dogs exhibited high levels of stress, 
and were more bonded to the adult caregiver than to the autistic child.

I also really liked what you had to say about autistic children versus 
autistic adults, and the difference that mental maturity makes.

I'm curious, and you certainly don't have to answer, if you'd rather not, 
but, did you get your dog from a program, or, did you owner train?

Shannon and Caroline
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katrin Andberg" <katrin at maplewooddog.com>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:53 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Missing Washington Co. Boy Found After 5-Mile BarefootWalk

Autism is currently classified in the DSM-IV.  The proposed DSM-V will have
autism simply as "Autism Spectrum Disorders" currently in the DSM-IV there
is Autism, Asperger's Syndrome, PDD-NOS and I believe one other non verbal
learning disability I am forgetting at this moment.

I personally have an issue with many of the "service dogs" for young
autistic children as in the vast majority of the cases the dogs are expected
to be Lassie (which we all know was a fictitional character) and baby sit
the child.  There was a study done on 10 service dogs placed with autistic
children from a Canadian program (the 1st program to place dogs with
autistic children as service dogs) and after evaluating and documenting the
teams for a period of months after placement it was shown that 8 out of 10
dogs were bonded to the adult care giver and could have cared less about the
kid.  Most dogs would also get up and leave the situation out of stress when
the child had a meltdown.  And a number also began exhibiting stress signals
and even to the point of growling at the child.  Not exactly the safest
situation if you ask me.

As an adult with autism who utilizes a service dog and knows 1st hand how
much assistance my dog provides me I am 100% on board for task trained (not
simply emotional support, but truly task trained same as any other service
or guide dog is) service dogs for ADULTS (or some teenagers) on the spectrum
who can make appropriate safety decisions regarding the dog.  But what small
child is routinely capable of doing that regardless of whether they have
autism or not?  No other disability related program is trying to place
working dogs with children as young as they are doing with autism service
dogs.  And I have yet to see a case where any of these kids can
independently handle their dog the way one needs to to be a good handler in
high stress public situations.  They are not mentally mature enough to do
so.  No 6 year old kid is, in my opinion.  I am fully on board with in home
only or emotional support dogs which do not have public access for kids as I
believe they can help a child prepare for having a service dog later in life
when they are capable of making the proper decisions and take on the huge
responsibility that having a working dog in public is.

I know there is a large camp of people that does not and will not agree with
me on this.  I am just giving my point of view as an autistic adult who is
partnered with a service dog and who most likely will chose to be for the
remainder of my life due to the assistance my dog provides me.

Katrin

Katrin Andberg

Katrin at maplewooddog.com

--------

Interesting article.  The use of dogs for autism is fascinating, and I guess

they make a really big difference in helping the person stay grounded and

relate more easily in social situations.  Very cool.

Althought I'm confused.  The report kept referring to the dog as a guide

dog.  Is it just me, or would the dog in question be more properly referred

to as a service dog?  I think autism is one of those disabilities for which

the line between guide, other types of service and emotional support animal

are a little blurred, although I'm not sure currently how autism is

classified in terms of disability...

Tami Smith-Kinney

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