[nagdu] canes/guide dogs

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Wed Jul 11 02:14:01 UTC 2012


Well, you're unfortunately right.  Should be no probblem!  I use both and am 
proud to do so because I feel it gives me mor adaptibility.  Adaptibility is 
what its all about!  Being able to take new situations and adapt to every 
one of them makes me at least feel like a conquer!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] canes/guide dogs


> Vanessa,
> Very well put. I dislike the way people were comparing the NFB and
> ACB. I've attended one ACB state convention held in California and I
> saw similar incidents occurring between guide dog handlers and cane
> users. I agree with you. It doesn't matter where the two are, but I
> think cane users and guide dog users will probably have issues at one
> point or another. I wish it weren't like that because I'm all about
> keeping the peace with everyone, but unfortunately it does happen. Our
> only option is to be patient and show others that we won't let it
> bother us.
> Juanita And Anise
>
> On 7/9/12, Vanessa Lowery <vlowery at dhr.state.md.us> wrote:
>> I don't tend to check messages as frequently over the weekends, so I'm
>> always going to be playing catch-up on Mondays, but as a member of ACB 
>> who
>> has attended four or so national conventions, the rift between cane users
>> and guide dog ysers is also alive in well.  I don't think it has anything 
>> to
>> do with organizational affiliation.  It is jsut a rift that exists 
>> between
>> the two camps.  Personally, I would prefer that it not exist, but it 
>> does.
>> However, as Julie correctly put it, not every cane users has a beef wiht
>> guide dog users, and not every guide dog user has a beef with cane users.
>> But I also don't think that the rift is as wide-spread as is often 
>> thought
>> simply because convention settings are enough to put everyone on edge, no
>> matter what means of mobility is being utilized.  it is jsut a stressful
>> environment.  No matter how large the venue is, there are crowds that 
>> pile
>> up, and patience goes out the window (guide dog users, canes users, those
>> using sighted guide, and the people trains).
>>
>> Good post, Julie, by the way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
>> Adult and Community Services Division
>> Adult Services Screening Unit
>> 410-853-3550
>> VLowery at dhr.state.md.us
>>
>>
>>>>> marilyn <t21114 at optonline.net> 7/9/2012 8:08 AM >>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> It saddens me to hear there is still a problem with cane users and dog 
>> users
>> at conventions. I can remember when there were no canes when I was 
>> growing
>> up and you felt your way around or held someone's hand. Ok I am old and
>> proud I made it to this age. I joined NFB back in the 80's before I had a
>> guide dog. the group out here in Suffolk County was terrible. When I made 
>> a
>> decision to get a dog I was put down and told I was giving up my
>> independence. One man had a guide dog in the group. I told them no I am
>> enhancing my independence. After getting my first dog my husband and I
>> decided to see what the NFB convention was like. Lots of information but
>> fights between people using canes and dogs. After I think 2 days my 
>> husband
>> and I both turned to each other and said were out of here. I have never 
>> been
>> to a convention since. If we can't work together then we are divided and
>> that is why ACB started. we can all have different views but the main 
>> thing
>> is respect each other. We are mo!
>>  re alike than we are different.
>> I am a good cane user but prefer a dog. That being said I have to get 
>> ready
>> to leave for the blind group I go to every Monday morning. that is the 
>> only
>> day I don't work.
>> marilyn and Anna
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