[Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"Lottomachines? Whydon'ttheytalk?

Sun Apr 15 21:17:15 UTC 2012

Frida, you raise an interesting issue as the casinos in Nevada are not 
Indian gaming casinos and are therefore subject to conditions of the ADA as 
they would fall in to the category of public accommodations and are not 
exempt from potential enforcement as the hotels are not sovereign nations 
like the tribes. I would suspect that the old machines have been scrapped as 
they for the most are only fashionable as collector's items.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frida Aizenman" <aizenman at earthlink.net>
To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"Lottomachines? 
Whydon'ttheytalk?


> Tina,
> Good afternoon.
> This is Frida. Now I live in Northern Nevada. Las Vegas is Southern 
> Nevada.
> I can tell you that there is no such thing as accessibility in the slot
> machines.
> All of them have all kinds of useless noise, and though, sometimes the 
> noise
> sounds good, none of the noise tells you what you need to know.
> When you put your money in, and then decide you don't want to play all of 
> it
> in that particular machine, you get back a ticket, but I couldn't read the
> amount. So, you don't hear the coins falling like in the old machines. To
> tell you the truth, when I took the ticket home, I did not put it
> in the scanner to see if it can be read. You can save the ticket if you
> like, and when you go back to that casino, you can use it again, but you
> have to be careful because there is an expiration date.
> When I moved from California to Reno, in 2003, our NFB Northern Nevada
> chapter used to meet at the Silver Legacy casino. It was so big, that I
> personally had trouble
> finding the meeting room, but asked for help, and sometimes, I was able to
> follow the NFB members into the meeting room.
> the meetings were noisy, the noise came from outside.
> From my house, I am able to walk to the Peppermill Casino. It takes a half
> an hour to do that. I used to walk to it with my dear Aunt Frieda, may she
> rest in peace.
> When I moved to Reno, the Siena Hotel Spa Casino used to still have old
> machines, but now, they remodeled, and neither I, nor my cousins David and
> Doris have been over there in a long time, and don't know one way or 
> another
> what has happened to the old machines.
> In November, we had our NFB Nevada state convention in Las Vegas. It was 
> at
> hotel casino, The Golden Nugget Las Vegas. Luckily, the convention was in 
> a
> quiet area from the casino
> area.
> Well, there are lots of casinos over here, but the question in my mind 
> would be, even if casinos made their machines accessible, once that is 
> done, would the people in charge lose interest, or would they maintain the 
> accessibility?
> Cordially,
> Frida
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tina Thomas" <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lottomachines?
> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>
>
>> Hello Everyone- I will be going on a casino trip with the pathfinder
>> chapter
>> next   Saturday. It will be interesting to find out how their machines 
>> are
>> set up and if there is any way of blind people being able to navigate the
>> machines with minimum assistance. I also want to find out about their
>> policy
>> on dog guides in the casino.
>> Tina
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:26 PM
>> To: NFB of California List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines?
>> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>
>> No I hadn't thought about until I came across this thread although i['ve
>> been aware of issues atcasinos for quite some time as one of our former
>> chapter members had an issue at one of them a few years ago.
>> chuck
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mary Willows" <mwillows at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines?
>> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>
>>
>>> Go for it if you want to take this one on.  Did you send this
>>> information to Dr.  Maurer?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why
>>> don'ttheytalk?
>>>
>>>
>>>> As usual I'm way behind on routine emails. This is an interesting 
>>>> topic.
>>>> I usually don't by lottery tickets but I bought some when we had the
>>>> large mega millions jackpot. I found that my actual picks did not
>>>> scan using Kurzweil while the rest of the information on the ticket
>>>> was read properly. In addition to the lottery machines not being
>>>> accessible none of the machines at the casinos are usable by blind
>>>> people. Of course as the Indian tribes are sovereign nations they are
>>>> not technically governed by the ADA and other regulations.
>>>> Chuck
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:30 PM
>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why don't
>>>> theytalk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Federationists!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why aren't there any talking Lotto machines?
>>>>>
>>>>> I occasionally buy Mega Millions or Calif Super Lotto tickets from
>>>>> my trusty Mom & Pop shop.  I bring my ticket home, and file it with
>>>>> my other tickets.  Every few weeks, I take the tickets back to the
>>>>> shop, and the friendly staff scan the tickets, congratulate me on
>>>>> any winners, etc.  In our laid back beach town, we seem to share a
>>>>> neighborly feeling of trust. Besides, the shop has cameras, so
>>>>> everyone is recorded around the counter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently, my girlfriend raised a point.  I don't really know which
>>>>> tickets are winners or losers, but am simply taking someone else's
>>>>> word on what the scanner gadget said.  To wit:  why don't the
>>>>> lottery ticket machines talk?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this something that we should weigh-in on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?  Comments?  Complaints?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wishing all of you a prosperous and healthful new year, filled with
>>>>> as much love and peace as you can stand!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred C
>>>>> Beach Cities Chaper
>>>>> NFBC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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