[Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"Lottomachines? Whydon'ttheytalk?

Sun Apr 15 22:25:44 UTC 2012

Dear Chuck,
When you talked about the slot machines as being fashionable as collector's 
items, it reminded me that, when I first move to Reno, there was a 
restaurant called The Liberty Bell which had a museum of old kinds of old 
machines, but the restaurant has been close for at least six years, and I do 
not know what happened to the old machines.
Frida
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"Lottomachines? 
Whydon'ttheytalk?


> Frida, you raise an interesting issue as the casinos in Nevada are not 
> Indian gaming casinos and are therefore subject to conditions of the ADA 
> as they would fall in to the category of public accommodations and are not 
> exempt from potential enforcement as the hotels are not sovereign nations 
> like the tribes. I would suspect that the old machines have been scrapped 
> as they for the most are only fashionable as collector's items.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frida Aizenman" <aizenman at earthlink.net>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"Lottomachines? 
> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>
>
>> Tina,
>> Good afternoon.
>> This is Frida. Now I live in Northern Nevada. Las Vegas is Southern 
>> Nevada.
>> I can tell you that there is no such thing as accessibility in the slot
>> machines.
>> All of them have all kinds of useless noise, and though, sometimes the 
>> noise
>> sounds good, none of the noise tells you what you need to know.
>> When you put your money in, and then decide you don't want to play all of 
>> it
>> in that particular machine, you get back a ticket, but I couldn't read 
>> the
>> amount. So, you don't hear the coins falling like in the old machines. To
>> tell you the truth, when I took the ticket home, I did not put it
>> in the scanner to see if it can be read. You can save the ticket if you
>> like, and when you go back to that casino, you can use it again, but you
>> have to be careful because there is an expiration date.
>> When I moved from California to Reno, in 2003, our NFB Northern Nevada
>> chapter used to meet at the Silver Legacy casino. It was so big, that I
>> personally had trouble
>> finding the meeting room, but asked for help, and sometimes, I was able 
>> to
>> follow the NFB members into the meeting room.
>> the meetings were noisy, the noise came from outside.
>> From my house, I am able to walk to the Peppermill Casino. It takes a 
>> half
>> an hour to do that. I used to walk to it with my dear Aunt Frieda, may 
>> she
>> rest in peace.
>> When I moved to Reno, the Siena Hotel Spa Casino used to still have old
>> machines, but now, they remodeled, and neither I, nor my cousins David 
>> and
>> Doris have been over there in a long time, and don't know one way or 
>> another
>> what has happened to the old machines.
>> In November, we had our NFB Nevada state convention in Las Vegas. It was 
>> at
>> hotel casino, The Golden Nugget Las Vegas. Luckily, the convention was in 
>> a
>> quiet area from the casino
>> area.
>> Well, there are lots of casinos over here, but the question in my mind 
>> would be, even if casinos made their machines accessible, once that is 
>> done, would the people in charge lose interest, or would they maintain 
>> the accessibility?
>> Cordially,
>> Frida
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tina Thomas" <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lottomachines?
>> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>
>>
>>> Hello Everyone- I will be going on a casino trip with the pathfinder
>>> chapter
>>> next   Saturday. It will be interesting to find out how their machines 
>>> are
>>> set up and if there is any way of blind people being able to navigate 
>>> the
>>> machines with minimum assistance. I also want to find out about their
>>> policy
>>> on dog guides in the casino.
>>> Tina
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:26 PM
>>> To: NFB of California List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines?
>>> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>>
>>> No I hadn't thought about until I came across this thread although i['ve
>>> been aware of issues atcasinos for quite some time as one of our former
>>> chapter members had an issue at one of them a few years ago.
>>> chuck
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mary Willows" <mwillows at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines?
>>> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Go for it if you want to take this one on.  Did you send this
>>>> information to Dr.  Maurer?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:25 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why
>>>> don'ttheytalk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As usual I'm way behind on routine emails. This is an interesting 
>>>>> topic.
>>>>> I usually don't by lottery tickets but I bought some when we had the
>>>>> large mega millions jackpot. I found that my actual picks did not
>>>>> scan using Kurzweil while the rest of the information on the ticket
>>>>> was read properly. In addition to the lottery machines not being
>>>>> accessible none of the machines at the casinos are usable by blind
>>>>> people. Of course as the Indian tribes are sovereign nations they are
>>>>> not technically governed by the ADA and other regulations.
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why don't
>>>>> theytalk?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings Federationists!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why aren't there any talking Lotto machines?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I occasionally buy Mega Millions or Calif Super Lotto tickets from
>>>>>> my trusty Mom & Pop shop.  I bring my ticket home, and file it with
>>>>>> my other tickets.  Every few weeks, I take the tickets back to the
>>>>>> shop, and the friendly staff scan the tickets, congratulate me on
>>>>>> any winners, etc.  In our laid back beach town, we seem to share a
>>>>>> neighborly feeling of trust. Besides, the shop has cameras, so
>>>>>> everyone is recorded around the counter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently, my girlfriend raised a point.  I don't really know which
>>>>>> tickets are winners or losers, but am simply taking someone else's
>>>>>> word on what the scanner gadget said.  To wit:  why don't the
>>>>>> lottery ticket machines talk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this something that we should weigh-in on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?  Comments?  Complaints?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wishing all of you a prosperous and healthful new year, filled with
>>>>>> as much love and peace as you can stand!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred C
>>>>>> Beach Cities Chaper
>>>>>> NFBC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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