[NFBCS] JAWS Use Virtual Ribbon Menus Keeps Saying Blank

[Ty Littlefield]

There is nothing wrong with the old menu bar, but Ribbons are what we 
have, and using virtualized replacements like you are means that when 
things break, you have to wait for updates. It doesn't take long to 
learn the new style; with that you're no longer stuck using a solution 
that can break at times.



On 7/24/2023 2:16 PM, Nicole Torcolini via NFBCS wrote:
>
>             I respectfully disagree. There was nothing wrong with the 
> old menu bar, and I don’t know why Microsoft completely did away with 
> it. I understand that some people prefer the new fangled ribbon bar, 
> both with and without the virtual ribbon, so people should be able to 
> choose.
>
>             BTW, if you want the old menu bar back in Windows 
> Explorer, there is a program that can turn off the ribbon, but only 
> for Explorer—not for Office.
>
> Nicole
>
> *From:*NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Curtis Chong 
> via NFBCS
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2023 8:42 AM
> *To:* 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Curtis Chong <chong.curtis at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [NFBCS] JAWS Use Virtual Ribbon Menus Keeps Saying Blank
>
> Hello:
>
> I am in the camp which strongly recommends that people stop using the 
> JAWS virtual ribbons and adopt the ribbons provided by Microsoft. 
> There are numerous tutorials available to teach people how to get at 
> the ribbon nonvisually. I just sent out an old audio from Blind 
> Training which, in my opinion, pretty much gives you what you need to 
> make the transition.
>
> Pay particular attention to the Quick Access Toolbar, which has really 
> saved me a lot of time.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Curtis Chong
>
> *From:*NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Steve Shelton 
> via NFBCS
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2023 5:36 PM
> *To:* 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Steve Shelton <stevesheltonokc at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [NFBCS] JAWS Use Virtual Ribbon Menus Keeps Saying Blank
>
> I had the same problem and called JAWS technical support. I was told  
> that an update from Microsoft likely broke the JAWS virtual menu 
> feature.  Freedom Scientific will  work on a resolution for JAWS and 
> push out a JAWS update at some point.
>
> As a work around, I turned off the JAWS virtual menu option  and can 
> now access ribbons again. I don’t plan to go back to the virtual menu 
> even if the problem gets resolved.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Steve
>
> *From:*NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Nicole 
> Torcolini via NFBCS
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2023 5:41 PM
> *To:* 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Nicole Torcolini <torcolini at comcast.net>
> *Subject:* [NFBCS] JAWS Use Virtual Ribbon Menus Keeps Saying Blank
>
>             I think that I have Office 2021; I don’t know for sure 
> because I cannot get to the Help menu in the different programs. I 
> have the latest version of JAWS. I am running Windows 10 64 bit. I 
> think that this happened after the latest JAWS update, but it could 
> have been after an update to Windows, Office, etc. I turn on the “Use 
> Virtual Ribbon Menus” option in the JAWS setting. Before, it worked 
> fine. Now, if this is turned on, it just says blank. Sometimes, if I 
> can manage to move into and back out of a submenu, it will start 
> speaking the information, but most of the time it just says blank. Has 
> anyone else had this problem?
>
> Nicole
>
>
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